Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ruddy, I think that you are confusing the list and its members. I know many of the LUG members in person, and when we get together over a beer or whatever, of course we discuss all kinds of things: Leica, politics, cars, whatever, like any group of friendly people would. But there is a time and place for everything, and the LUG is dedicated to discussions of primarily Leica photography and Leica equipment. Yes, I know that Brian tolerates uncontroversial off-topic threads but only up to a point. If people wish to discuss Iraq, there is the separate LUGforum list that Brian has set up for precisely such purposes (as far as I recall, this was something he introduced following the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11 2001). Or you can email people privately. I have had such private exchanges in recent days with several members of the list. The mail from Peter Moss to which you refer can hardly be characterized as "reaching out" to anyone. Sending a virulently anti-American off-topic message to a list where probably 2/3 of the participants are American was clearly designed to provoke name-calling and flames. Whatever you think of the wisdom of the course embarked upon by the US and the UK, this list is simply not the proper forum for that discussion. Let us use an analogy from the non-virtual world: let's say you went to an academic conference, say, the annual meeting of the American Economic Association (I am picking that example because I have participated in those many times). If you tried to give a talk on the portrayal of female characters in James Joyce's works, you would not be able to get on the agenda. Not because economists are not interested in literature, but simply because an AEA conference would not be the forum for such a talk. The hotel bar in the evening would be a much better place. Well, here the LUGforum is that hotel bar, and everyone is welcome. Nathan leica-user@ispwest.com wrote: > This is Ruddy Roye > that was for Mark Rabiner who prefers that I identify myself before speaking. > But I am actually shocked that people would not find it in their hearts to allow some of > these photographers to reach out to the same people they have been talking to where > camera filters and the workings of machines and inanimate objects are concerned > I am not going to spout politics. > I am just saddened by the fact that if I want to share my heart with the same guy that I talk > to about my camera I can't, because he does not want to hear what I have to say. Or he > finds more pleasure in talking about a machine that cannot help him if his ass falls down > and he needs another human being's help. > > Funny, > I wonder what I would do if I pass an LUG user on the street bleeding, and he/she wanted > my help.....would I say "ah comrade(insult) you need to dial the LUG forum for some help I > only talk about filters...this amount of blood is an over/underload..." > Knowing me, I would actually...I don't know...some of you guys push me to crossing to the > other side. > > I grew up reading parables like the good Samaritan so I am so conflicted. I really wonder > where the good people in America went..I am beleiving that they do not shoot leicas. > > Ruddy Roye > Brooklyn New York > 11233 > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- Nathan Wajsman Herrliberg (ZH), Switzerland e-mail: nathanw@bluewin.ch mobile: +41 78 732 1430 Photo-A-Week: http://www.wajsman.com/indexpaw2003.htm General photo site: http://www.wajsman.com/index.htm - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html