Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Murray I do not purport or pretend to be in any way a Scot except what has rubbed off in contact with my wife or with Lagavulin. Come to think of it, I have had more contact lately with Lagavulin than with my wife :-) BTW, there never was a "Clan Lehrer" in Kiel. Jerry Marc James Small wrote: > At 12:58 PM 3/8/03 -0800, Jerry Lehrer wrote: > > > >When we last visited Scotland and made a search of the Rutherford > >clan genealogy, we found out that the Rutherfords were border > >reivers, who pillaged the English near the border. > > > >My wife's mother was a MacDonald, and they had a different > >reputation. Bloodier yet, I believe. > > > >BTW, are we supposed to consider Marc the Small, as an arbiter > >of who are the real Scots? I'll wager that he can't drink Laphroig.:-) > > Sorry, Jerry, but the Smalls are merely a minor sept (attendant family) of > Clan Murray. Two of my uncles died at Culloden, fighting under Lord George > Murray for the King Over The Water. They wouldn't let their baby brother > come along, and it is him from whom I am descended. > > I haven't my Scots literature at hand so I cannot discuss your putative > "Clan" Rutherford, but a group which were Border reivers were not > Highlanders. See, inter multa alia, George MacDonald Fraser's book on the > borders for a rather explicit discussion of the difference. Some of these > reiver families were nasty enough to scare the Brits, though the > Highlanders kept them in line. We have a number of Rutherfords and > Rutherfoords locally, but they claim descent from the Highlands. > > Don't fall for the grand commercialization of being either Scots or Irish, > Jerry. Put some effort into the study and you can learn much but merely > buying a plaque with the "family crest" and a mimeographed history doesn't > cut it. And, certainly, do NOT invest in a "Clan Lehrer" kilt, both as > you'd probably not be able to wear it properly ("you have to swing your > hips like a cheap whore", a retired Sergeant out of the Gordons once told > me) and because there isn't a "Clan Lehrer" -- but, to make a buck, the > wool merchants will quickly concoct such and swear by their mother's blood > that it is true and accurate. If you'll come and spend a weekend in my > delightful home, however, I will share with you the design of the Blue > Ridge Highlands tartan and you certainly can wear that. > > Wearing a tartan is as decisive an act as putting a political bumper > sticker on a car -- and floral decorations count for as much or more among > the knowledgeable. If I showed up in a Royal Stewart, I would be a cad. > If I showed up in a Campbell sett, the current Duke of Argyll, if he heard > of it, would be shocked. If I wore a Fraser tartan, it would be (and is) > viewed as a fine respect for my paternal grandmother's family. (Jerry, do > you recall that Gary Cooper/Paulette Goddard vehicle, THE UNCONQUERED > (1947)? The characther played by Ward Bond therein is an historical > figure, one John Fraser -- and he is my fourth-great-grandfather.) > > Learn the turf. Our Clan Chief recently died, and I know not the new > fellow, but the late Duke of Atholl welcomed all who came into the Clan. I > suspect that you'd look fine in a green Murray tartan, and I'd be glad to > take you to the Santa Rosa Games which are still, I believe, the largest in > the nation. My father ran the Murray tent there for some years, a > quarter-century and more back. > > Beannacht leibh, > > Marc > > msmall@infi.net FAX: +276/343-7315 > Cha robh bąs fir gun ghrąs fir! > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html