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Subject: RE: [Leica] There Are Many Women in Medicine
From: "Buzz Hausner" <buzz.hausner@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:36:51 -0500

No, Sonny, my objection was to what I took...almost certainly
mistook...as your shot at doctors, particularly male doctors.  I have
nothing but the greatest respect for nurses and other health
professionals, and I don't think I have written anything which would
imply disdain for nurses' accomplishments, abilities and
professionalism.

I do like your photograph, but I generally refrain from commenting on
LUG photographic displays and medical diagnoses.

Florence Sabin enrolled in Johns Hopkins medical school a year after
Gertrude Stein's matriculation.

	Buzz Hausner

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of (SonC)
Sonny Carter
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:21 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] There Are Many Women in Medicine

So, Buzz, I am curious, did you think that my posting a shot of an NP
with
my son and talking about my wife and my mother as nurses, somehow
reduced
the accomplishments of all those health care professionals?

I think the answer to your question is Florence Rena Sabin, at least she
was
the first woman Professor at that otherwise slow-to-recognize minorities
Institution.

And, by the way, did you like the shot?  Or should I have used a Woman
Doctor instead of an NP? Would it have made my son's diagnosis
different?

Sonny



- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Buzz Hausner" <buzz.hausner@verizon.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: [Leica] There Are Many Women in Medicine


> In fact, my wife is scheduled to be one of the women in medicine whose
> work Ted will document when he's in Boston.
>
> My wife is a surgeon and works with many other women doctors.  She
also
> works with many women who are not physicians, as well as with numerous
> men who are nurses, surgical technicians (do you still have that
> photograph, B.D.?), lab techs, nurse practitioners, physicians
> assistants, EMTs, or who fill other duties throughout the world of
> medical care but aren't physicians.  The CEO of a major teaching
> hospital where my wife has admitting privileges is a woman.
>
> Slightly more than 50% of medical students in the U.S. are women and I
> am certain that with time a number of them will become grumpy old docs
> who blame their patients for their own illnesses.  Probably in the
same
> proportion as men who became grumpy old docs.
>
> Almost...but not quite Leica relevant, anyone out there know who was
the
> first woman admitted to Johns Hopkins medical school?
>
> Buzz Hausner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve
> Barbour
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Women in Medicine
>
> Hi Sonny....hmmmmm....It's interesting that you have rather curiously
> equated Women in Medicine  selectively with nurses,  and
> further...associated docs with  "grumpy,  and men.... "
>
> I agree with your affection about  "Women in Medicine"  (Ted and Sandy
> are here at Phoenix Children's Hospital  photographing this very
week),
> but to set the record straight...women in medicine today  includes
many,
> many, doctors....as well as med students, nurses, and many others...
and
> further, the fact is...  many nurses today are men....
>
> Steve
>
>
> > Ted Grant and Sandy Carter are busy preparing a book on one of my
> > favorite sunjects, "Women in Medicine."
> >
> > My mother was a  RN, my kids' Mother is a  nurse, and increasingly
the
> > frontline caregivers are nurses.
> >
> > Last week, we were at Ochsner New Orleans for an appointment for my
> son
> > Eric, and the Nurse Practicioner was the first  person he saw.
> >
> > When I go to the doctor, some grumpy old Doc tells me to stop what
> I've
> > been doing to cause whatever is wrong with me.
> >
> > http://sonc.com/eric_nurse.htm
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > SonC  (Sonny Carter)
> > http://www.sonc.com
> >
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