Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/02/16

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Subject: Re: [Leica] anti war in amsterdam
From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:54:27 +0100
References: <65FB73DE-4137-11D7-9B6A-0003936CAC22@directvinternet.com> <000901c2d546$e65e6c50$388a8418@symkeehx5nw8g8> <3E4F1C41.7080000@cox.net> <001f01c2d595$e61c4150$388a8418@symkeehx5nw8g8> <p05100300ba75039f90d6@[192.168.1.33]>

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From: "Christer Almqvist" <chris@almqvist.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] anti war in amsterdam
> >p.s according Kodak literature the film should give better results then a
> >400 pushed twice.do you disagree with that?
>
> TMZ better than TMY pushed two stops?
>
> Depends on what you mean by better results. But generally I would
> disagree. In this case definitely.
>
> TMY pushed to 1600 has much less shadow detail than TMZ @ 1600 but
> also a lot less grain. Shadow details are not of great importance to
> the pictures you show this time, so I think a pushed TMY would have
> been better than the TMZ you used.
>
> I agree with the comment above about the grain coming through on the
> web. But even worse to my mind is that the pictures are so flat and
> muddy. The grain is murky. Obviously the light was very diffuse, and
> this makes the pictures look like they do if you use  TMZ. The
> pictures are not "clear"
>
> Pushing a 400 film to 1600 would increase contrast and make the
> pictures look more vivid, unless you print the flat on purpose.. For
> situations like the one you photographed I would go for HP5 @ 800 and
> develop in Rodinal. Grain yes, but very clean grain and high
> acutance. More sparkle.
>
> One more suggestion if I may; in a situation liked that, set your
> lens to 2 meters instead of four and get CLOSER!
>
> Best regards
>
> >--
Now why didn,t i think of that?
Thanks for the comments.
simon

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