RE: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That Shutter"

["bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

"in cooperation with the New Jersey State Police." ;-)

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Hello,
In NJ, our "Press Credentials" are issued by "New Jersey Press
Association, New Jersey Broadcasters Association, New Jersey Cable TV
Association, in cooperation with New Jersey State Police" (quote is from
the individual and vehicle id). Application for credentials is not to
the NJSP, but to the NJ Press Association which administers the program.
Take care, Pat McKee

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From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That Shutter"


> I may be missing something here, Slobodan, but as far as I know, for 
> at least the last 35 years in most major cities if there are 
> "official" press credentials, they have been issued by the cops. In 
> the past they certainly didn't involve that kind of background check, 
> but the only press credential that would do any good was an "official"

> one - issued by D.C. cop, NYC cops, etc. After all, what do you need a

> press credential for, other than to get past police and fire lines? If

> not at something controlled by the cops, any employer issued ID will 
> do.
>
> On the other hand, you're right that we don't want the cops 
> controlling the press....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of S 
> Dimitrov
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:05 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That
Shutter"
>
>
> Yeah, yesterday I got my new press credential sticker for 2003-2004. 
> It makes me grit my teeth to see that the issuing agency is the LAPD 
> and not a press association, or some such industry or professional 
> organization. The initial application requires a three month 
> investigation of one's national records by the police department. 
> Never mind owning a camera, what about the here and now with the 
> McCain snitch chip in our TVs, and the snitch software in our 
> computers. It's probably putting a smile on Goebbel's crisped face. It

> makes his limited range radio look Neolithic, and that was just a 
> couple of generations ago. Slobodan Dimitrov
>
>
> bdcolen wrote:
> >
> > I would not be posting this were it not for this on-going "horrors 
> > of keeping us snapping" thread.....
> >
> > But if you folks think THIS is bad - you obviously didn't watch Bill

> > Moyer's NOW last night, nor did you see the little AP story about 
> > the same subject in some of today's papers:
> >
> > Your "Justice" Department is working on a second go-round of "Der 
> > Homelander Sekurity Act" which would, among other things, allow for 
> > -
> > * Secret arrests;
> > * Stripping of citizenship;
> > * Warrentless wiretaps
> > And the list goes on and on. This proposed law has apparently been
> > sent to ONE member of Congress - Speaker "Denny" Haster, and VP
> > Channey for comment, but has not been sent to any members of the
> > Judiciary Committees in either House or Senate.
> >
> > If you don't like the fact that there are some places they are 
> > stopping us from taking photos, just wait - another year or so and 
> > you
>
> > won't be allowed to own a camera. ;-)
> >
> > Here's where to find the draft "Justice" Department act - 
> > http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/patriot2-hi.pdf
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Adam 
> > Bridge
> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:35 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That 
> > Shutter"
> >
> > On 2/8/03 Tim Atherton  wrote:
> >
> > >interestingly useful, especially after the police in Lewiston Maine

> > >recently banned all cameras from a demonstration (because they were

> > >considered a terrorist threat) unless they were carried by 
> > >previously
>
> > >registered Media...
> >
> > I'm hoping that, after the fact, this was taken up with the local 
> > government and revoked. Do you know if it was?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Adam
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