Re: [Leica] High speed color films...

["\(SonC\) Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>]

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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@ix.netcom.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] High speed color films...


> Sonny,
>
> > I don't recall being an ass. Maybe I am .
>
> Demeaning someone as you clearly did is being an ass in my book.
>
> > It is just that MANY people
> > (including me) have answered your question with picture examples of
mixed
> > lighting, and fluorescent lighting, and tungsten lighting, and daylight
> > lighting, and STILL you remain unconvinced.
>
> How do you know what I am thinking?  How do you know what I am going to be
> doing with the film?  Because I ask people some further questions,
> specifically, what film they are talking about, for those that didn't
state
> a specific film, and asking if they made prints and how they liked the
color
> balance...that has you believing I "STILL remain unconvinced", or that
there
> are no more questions to be asked/answered that would give me more
> information.  How do you know what information I am looking for?
>
> Web based pictures are NOT the same as prints.  I will be using the film
for
> making PRINTS, automated prints, I will not be scanning the film.  That is
> why I am asking people follow-up questions, and the fact is, it's simply
not
> your place to tell me when I have enough information, or to tell people to
> "not waste your time".  I happen to be getting some GREAT responses with
> excellent information, and for some reason you have some agenda to try to
> derail that.  I simply don't understand it.
>
> > So, who is arrogant?
>
> Clearly you.  By telling someone "not to waste your time", and claiming
"the
> subjective is beyond him".  It's up to ME to determine when I have the
> information I want, NOT YOU.
>
> > I have never been accused of that by anyone but you.
>
> Perhaps I'm the only one who has bothered to say it.
>
> > Whew!  A NEW title!   Presumptuous?  I was one of the first
> > people to answer
> > your question.
>
> So what?  That information was great, but now you demeaning statements are
> entirely inappropriate.
>
> > I have shot more than a thousand rolls of 800
> > film, and had
> > prints pulled.  I answered you question the first morning you asked it.
>
> There are a lot of other people who have opinions as well, equally as
> valuable as yours.  You did NOT state what film you were using, you simply
> said "Fuji 800".  You said you scan, I am not scanning the film.  Your
> answer was not enough for me to simply just say I've got enough
information.
>
> > Bullshit?  Who is demeaning who?
>
> I simply was calling you on your inappropriately demeaning statements.
>
> > Just buy the damn film, it only costs a few bucks. Shoot it. If
> > you like it,
> > then use it.
>
> Because that's not what I want to do, and that's up to me to decide how I
go
> about doing things.  I have to order what ever film(s) I choose from B&H,
> the nearest place that MAY have it is one hour in each direction away.  I
> have better things to do with my time, and I appreciate the (useful)
> responses I've received, and will make my decision based on that, and I am
> sure it will get me in the ballpark.
>
> What on earth did you think my reaction would be to your telling people:
>
> "Austin just wants some data that will prove it
> is better"
>
> "The subjective opinion is beyond him."
>
> "Don't waste your time."
>
> Well?  Did you think I would appreciate those comments?  You really should
> think about what you said, and how inappropriate it was.
>
> I'm not going to discuss this any more with you, nor do I have any
interest
> in pursuing this in private.
>
> Austin
>
>
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