Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/01/12

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Subject: RE: [Leica] As The World Turns
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:42:27 -0500

This is one where I can honestly say - No. 

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:37 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] As The World Turns


LUGers

In regard to this matter, I wonder how many of us have used our Leicas
to  take pictures in places where photography is not allowed?  I do not
mean taking shots

in classified security areas, we know that is a criminal offense.  I
mean at such places as rock concerts, churches, museums, royal palaces,
cat houses etc.  Have

any of you done this?

Mea culpa
Jerry

Ted Grant wrote:

> bdcolen wrote:
> > Okay, so I did understand it. In other words, someone's interest in 
> > taking a photo justifies intentionally violating religious 
> > strictures, or custom, in a foreign country? Forget camel dung in 
> > your face. Forget the possibility of being arrested. What happened 
> > to basic human decency?
> >
> > No wonder Americans are so 'beloved' in certain parts of the world 
> > these days.<<<<<
>
> B. D. ,
> It's that type of action that gets many folks in the glue around the 
> world, not just Americans! :-(  If we as photographers with our 
> Leica's don't respect the ways and customs, religions, when we tour 
> the world documenting various cultures, then how can we expect the 
> folks who are merely snap shooters to honour the customs?.
>
> We, by our published pictures, set the tone for the amateur to follow.

> So maybe it's time we began to set the example to be followed and to 
> hell with publishers and photo editors. I can honestly say I've never 
> taken a belly button shooting type picture as I could never understand

> what possible use it could be, regardless of the "big names" who've 
> done it. And the only reason it supposedly made any sense was .... no 
> one had ever done it before "big name did" then it was promoted as a 
> "magnificently new wave" of picture taking as it showed people how 
> they really were!  Bull shit, it just created a bunch of meaningless 
> exposures!
>
> Well shooting from your hip, belly button or ass, doesn't create 
> anything but a huge number of meaningless exposures where maybe..... 
> just maybe, the shooter might get something different. In general if 
> doing this breaks the rules of a countries customs and religion when 
> you are a visitor, it's degrading and puts all photographers 
> down.........  regardless of whom they are!
>
> ted
>
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