Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/01/06

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Lens CLA Problem
From: Patrick Jelliffe <pbjbike@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:42:26 -0800 (PST)

Robert,

Thanks for your input.  Maybe I'm wrong, but friction
caused by lube on the blades can cause some torsional
forces which could pull a blade out of place.  This
hasn't happened yet--two of them are kind of hanging
up, and after a moment, do return. It was never a
cosmetic problem--the stiffness occured at the same
time as the lube appeared on the blades. It's off to
Ken Ruth tomorrow.  He's always performed excellent
work and stands behind it.

Regards,

P

 
- --- "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@hfx.andara.com>
wrote:
> Patrick:
> 
> Sounds like your aperture blades have come out of
> place.  With a range 
> finder, oil on the blades is of no concern because
> they do not have to open 
> and close instantly like with a SLR.  The lube
> probably had nothing to do 
> with it.  Some lenses were just notorious for the
> aperture blades coming 
> out of place.  This just may be one of those lenses.
> 
> On each end of the blade is a pin that indexes into
> a hole in the ring that 
> moves them.  There is then another ring or part of
> the lens that screws 
> down on top of all these blades to keep them in
> their holes.  If this ring 
> is too tight, the aperture is hard to move.  If it
> is too loose, they pop 
> out of the index holes and you get the problem you
> mention.
> 
> Send it back to them and get them to fix it.  Your
> problem is you started 
> complaining about the wrong thing; something that is
> really just 
> cosmetic.  You should have been telling them that
> one of the aperture 
> blades is out of place.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> At 10:04 AM 1/6/2003 -0800, Patrick Jelliffe wrote:
> >Thanks, John
> >
> >We've had several email exchanges regarding this
> and
> >he's adamant that 6 months is his usual warranty,
> and
> >he might stretch that to a year, but, darn, I'm
> even
> >over that generous extension.  (I did contact him
> at
> >the one year mark, and told him of the stiffness,
> >before it got really bad, and he told me not to
> >worry.) At this point, I don't wish to besmirch his
> >reputation, I just won't do business there again.
> >Pretty sure it's just a matter of using a little
> too
> >much lube, or one with a (too)low viscosity for
> this
> >lens.   Nothing to lose business over or have an
> ego
> >reaction about.
> >
> >--- John Collier <jbcollier@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > Could you tell us who did the work? If it was
> > > someone familiar, we can
> > > tell you if they are just trying to brush you
> off. I
> > > use Gerry Smith at
> > > Kindermann Canada and have heard good things
> about
> > > DAG as well. Some of
> > > the others can be a little difficult to deal
> with at
> > > times and not
> > > willing to acknowledge potential errors or
> > > omissions.
> > >
> > > There are lenses that are famous for poor
> diaphragm
> > > construction such
> > > that it is recommended you do not use the lens
> if
> > > you find one that
> > > works! As far as I know the Canon 50/1.2 is a
> good
> > > user lens though the
> > > Canon 50/1.4 and Nikon 50/1.4 were better
> > > performers.
> > >
> > > John Collier
> > >
> > > On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 09:54 AM, Patrick
> > > Jelliffe wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can I get your opinions?
> > > >
> > > > 13 months ago I sent my Canon sm 50mm 1.2 lens
> for
> > > a
> > > > CLA.  The glass was very clear, but both the
> > > aperture
> > > > and focus were stiff enough to be a problem.
> > > There
> > > > was oil on the aperture blades.  The $100 CLA
> > > seemed
> > > > to do the trick until 2 months ago, when I
> noticed
> > > the
> > > > aperture was stiff from 2.8 to 1.2, and
> observed a
> > > > small amount of lubricant near the inner 1/4
> of
> > > > several blades.  After a roll or two, that
> > > migrated,
> > > > and now lubricant covers all the blades,
> causing
> > > two
> > > > of them to hang-up at 2.0.  I've stopped using
> the
> > > > lens for fear of breaking anything.  The
> repair
> > > > facility has refused to back their work saying
> > > that
> > > > the Canon 50 1.2 is prone to this lubricant
> > > migration.
> > > >  The lens was never in extreme conditions--no
> Gobi
> > > > Desert, no glove box storage, etc., and has
> not
> > > seen
> > > > much use, (literally under 10 rolls).  Am I
> wrong
> > > to
> > > > be annoyed about this lack of service?  Have
> > > others
> > > > had this problem with this lens?
> > >
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