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Subject: RE: [Leica] What Makes a good Picture?
From: Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:48:50 +0100 (MET)

Agreed! For 280 pounds you get a lot of slack. You could even use your
right hand for the fork for that kind of money. :)

Seriously, it's not the same, not at all.

Daniel


On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, bdcolen wrote:

> It's more than slightly different, Simon. In the first example you gave
> you were a guest in a private home; in this case you will be an attendee
> at a public event open to anyone willing to fork over 280 pounds...I
> wouldn't hesitate for a moment to shoot anything and everything at the
> later, while I would have shared your hesitation to shoot at the first.
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Simon
> Greenwood
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:41 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] What Makes a good Picture?
>
>
> Have you brought up the subject to your friend,
> > the host of the affair, since ?
> >
> > - Phong
>
> No, but I should. On  Saturday I can feel the whole thing repeating
> itself, as I am attending a gala dinner at a London Hotel with all of
> them and more. There will be a slight difference, as I will have paid
> £280 for the tickets, and I will be in a relatively public place.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phong" <phong@doan-ltd.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] What Makes a good Picture?
>
>
> > Simon,
> >
> > I am with you.  This is a delicate situation.
> > I would ask the host and hostess, and with their
> > consent, play it by ear.  People even celebrities
> > react all differently anyway.  Some will play to
> > your camera, others will feel their privacy, in
> > a private setting, invaded.  Especially the ones
> > who don't know you, I would presume.
> >
> > Have you brought up the subject to your friend,
> > the host of the affair, since ?
> >
> > - Phong
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Simon
> > > Greenwood
> > > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:46 AM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] What Makes a good Picture?
> > >
> > >
> > > I take your point Don, but whist I would not hesitate in taking
> > > pictures
> of
> > > my friends, and indeed I did of the host and his wife, it was the
> > > first
> time
> > > I had met his industry colleagues who all knew each other from award
>
> > > ceremonies etc.., and to that extent I was an outsider.
> > >
> > > The additional factor was that my camera was the only one in the
> > > place. Would you light a cigar when you are at a party, and of 60
> > > people, not
> one
> > > was smoking?
> > >
> > > best regards
> > > Simon
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Don Dory" <dorysrus@mindspring.com>
> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:50 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] What Makes a good Picture?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Simon, I would like to suggest that your logic is flawed.  You are
> > > concerned
> > > > that it would be a breach of confidence to take pictures as the
> > > > images
> > > could
> > > > be sold.  As you were invited you are part of the "club" and
> > > > therefore
> you
> > > > would be documenting the event as a family. The "famous" people
> > > > might
> even
> > > > like copies to remember a pleasant evening.
> > > >
> > > > I say this as my  travels bring me into contact with some fairly
> prominent
> > > > people and I frequently take pictures of them and their children.
>
> > > > The parties enjoy candids and trust me to not breach their trust
> > > > by
> flooding
> > > the
> > > > world with pictures of their families, which I don't.
> > > >
> > > > The key is in your head, you belong in the club and with a camera
> > > > as unobtrusive as a Leica taking several rolls during the evening
> > > > would
> not
> > > > intrude into your or their pleasure.  Documenting this event would
> bring
> > > > pleasure to all parties if shared with discretion.
> > > >
> > > > Even the most famous, richest, and media shy families have photo
> albums of
> > > > family snaps and memories of good times.  Someone took those
> > > > pictures,
> why
> > > > not you?
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > > dorysrus@mindspring.com
> > > >
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