Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/11/29

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Bicycle metaphors
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:00:10 -0500

Let me make sure I understand this...It is entirely inappropriate to
post digital images to this list because it is the LyKa list...but it IS
entirely appropriate to have drawn out discussions of bicycle
construction?

;-)

B. D.

Leica Image = A photograph produced using a camera/lens combination
manufactured by Leica, taken by someone suffering from the delusion that
that camera/lens combination is the only equipment configuration to
produce images worthy of attention or discussion; and also suffering
from the additional delusion that using such an equipment configuration
makes said person an outstanding photographer.



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Stuart
Phillips
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:37 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bicycle metaphors


John,
As a member of the HUG where Austin is also a frequent poster, I must
point out in Austin's defence that he has been a designer of digital
equipment for over 250 years, and that like religion, there is nothing
that cannot be clarified by analogy with digital technology : )


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Collier" <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:03 AM
Subject: [Leica] Bicycle metaphors


> Austin,
>
> I have no problems with your conclusions about Leica M cameras; 
> however, your knowledge of bicycle frames can only be described as 
> limited. The materials use in frame construction cannot only be chosen

> on the basis of lightweight. The old Teledynes (titanium) and Kirks 
> (cast magnesium) certainly proved that! It is only in the last year or

> so that the use of aluminium and carbon fiber has matured to point 
> where they can give ride qualities approaching that of a well designed

> steel bike. Lightweight is very nice but not if it punishes the rider 
> over every road irregularity.
>
> As to craftsmanship, there is no contest. Nothing can touch a steel 
> bike with handmade lugs.
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Colnago_Arabq.htm
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Sachs_Mikes_2.htm
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/bigdbVM.htm
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/Hetch_28114.htm
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/Mercn_DBs_vin.htm
>
> John Collier
>
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