Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Don HAHAHAH! You crack me up! Since when does this list center on Leica Photographs? Wow, what a hoot, you are really a card, and the line about Kim being a control freak! whew, Sonny (I'm all right now, wiping away tears!) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Re- Clementine > Kim: > > And what business of yours was it to lecture a specific photographer about > anything much less legal matters? If you don't have a state bar license I > seriously doubt your are qualified to give a legal opinion and may be guilty > of barristery. > > Just the typical "control freak" wanting to control one more human being I > take it. > > If "model release" is an "issue for potential discussion" as you now say, > why not give us your dissertation but leave the specific photographer out of > it. Then you may ramble on with no harm being done. > > Let the specific photographer alone. Let him do his thing. > > By the way, where are your Leica photos? > > Don R. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Teresa299@aol.com> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re- Clementine > > > > > > In a message dated 9/30/02 4:59:19 PM, gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca writes: > > > > << I agree! > > > > Pascal wrote: > > > > >On 30-09-2002 17:32 Neal Friedenthal wrote: > > > > > >>I usually avoid jumping in on these "controversial" threads, but I have > to > > do > > >>so here. While I have no problems with the image itself, it is quite > nice > > and > > >>very > > >>tastefully done, everyone seems to have missed one important issue, > > Clementine > > >>is only 17 years old. At 17 she is below the age of concent. Her parent > or > > >>guardian would have to give permission for the picture to be posted or > for > > >>that matter taken. The photographer has left himself open for possible > civil > > >>or even > > >>criminal action should the girl or her parents object to the photo. To > > >>photograph a minor, nude, without parental permission and supervision > leaves > > >>the > > >>photographer open to a charge of statutory rape even if, as I'm sure is > the > > >>case here, nothing more happened than the photo session. To take the > photo > > >>even > > >>with parental concent would in my opinion be ill advised, to post it > without > > >>permission is downright stupid. Believe me I am no prude, but I am a > > realist > > >>you have > > >>to cover your butt in this world. > > >> > > > > > >I think that those who had a concern over this should have better > contacted > > >Gerry directly via private email instead of stirring up yet another > debate > > >in the LUG. > > > > > >Pascal > > >NO ARCHIVE > > > >> > > > > > > I understand that the LUG has been irrationally contentious of late, but I > > certainly hope that in the spirit of civility the LUG doesn't become a > hollow > > shell of yes-men and a few women. > > > > I raised the issue of consent not as a form of bashing Gerry on the head > but > > simply expressing that in my mind it's a common courtesy to ask a nude > > subject's consent before posting his or her photo on the web. Whilst I > > could have emailed Gerry directly, why would I? Neither my point nor my > post > > was intended or contructed to embarass the man, rather it's an issue of > > potential discussion. > > > > If simple discussion of issues on the LUG has automatically become equated > > with controversy I'm hard pressed to see which is worse, unending > bickering > > or the silent death that befalls a community of folks afraid to speak. > > > > > > -kim > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html