Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/09

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Subject: RE: [Leica] I See Dead People & PAW Ketchup
From: Phong <phong@doan-ltd.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:23:45 -0400

> classic example ... where the
> photographer brings certain opinions and judgments about the subject-
> specifically about the people in the photo and the relationship of their
> mind-sets to the T-shirt - and therefore thinks that everyone who sees this
> still image will know what the photographer was thinking.

B.D.,

If Tom's message is "shopping = dead", (whatever dead and alive 
mean to Tom), there is enough of elements in the photo to conjure the
message.

In the same way, I cannot help but make the connection between 
 the billboard message  "The Future is Now in Session" in Carl Pultz's 
http://home.earthlink.net/~cpultz/PAW/PAW12.htm and  the emptiness
of the cityscape devoid of people depicted in the photo.  

Not that I think Tom's photo "works" for me.

- - Phong


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of B. D. Colen
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:42 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] I See Dead People & PAW Ketchup
> 
> 
> 
> Having read your explanation, Tom, here's what I see as the problem:
> 
> I think that what you have here is a classic example of a photo where the
> photographer brings certain opinions and judgments about the subject-
> specifically about the people in the photo and the relationship of their
> mind-sets to the T-shirt - and therefore thinks that everyone who sees this
> still image will know what the photographer was thinking.
> 
> I look at this and I see a group of people shopping - somewhere, I have no
> idea where - with a T-shirt saying
> "I see dead people" hanging over them. As the people in the photo are
> clearly not dead, and don't have a dead look about them, I don't think this
> works.
> 
> However - if this were a photo of a group of people in a subway car, lined
> up on a bench, in which one person was wearing this t-shirt and everyone in
> the photo had blank, dead expressions on their faces, it definitely would
> work - at least for me.
> 
> Obviously, this is all a matter of opinion.:-)
> B. D.
> 
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