Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/09

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Opinions from BD Colen - First three copies for free.
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:35:40 -0400

Be as snotty as you like, Neil. I am well aware that by posting my judgment
of Alfie's work I am open to like criticism from anyone who reads my posts -
and that bother's me not one wit.

For the record, I never have, and never would, compare myself to an HCB or a
Eugene Smith. In fact I take real offense that you would suggest that I am
so self-deluded as to think that I would ever belong in that sort of
company - only an Alfie Wang is that deluded.

As to your judgment of my work and my not having the skill to be in a
position to be dismissive of Alfie's work - I'll leave conclusions about
your taste and opinion in the matter to our fellow list members.

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Beddoe,
Neil
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:33 AM
To: 'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'
Subject: [Leica] Opinions from BD Colen - First three copies for free.


>>Obviously we disagree, Rob. By offering to sell his photography, and sell
it
>>to a group of photographers for up to $600!, Alfie is as open to criticism
>>as Richard Avedon or Cartier-Bresson - who, by the way, he none to subtly
>>compares himself to in his introduction.

>>Alfie offered his "work" to the LUG, not off-list to you or to me.
Therefore
>>this is the proper place to respond to that offer. And, as I said, I do
not
>>think we do him any favors by continuing to encourage this nonsense.

Obviously we disagree BD. By offering his opinion on Alfie Wang's
photography and sending it to a group of photographers for nothing, BD is
open to criticism as Eugene Smith or Cartier-Bresson - who, by the way I
strongly suspect he compares himself to.

BD offered his "criticism" to the LUG, not off-list to Alfie.  Therefore
this is the proper place to respond to that offer.  I do not think we do him
any favours by continuing to encourage this nonsense.

BD.  I have my opinion on Alfie's photography and I have my opinion on
yours.  They differ only in degree;  you have not the skill to be so
dismissive.

Neil

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