Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]There are certainly well-established avenues one must take to become a person of influence. Self-promotion isn't one. I know several people who call themselves writers who have nothing notable on their resume, and several people who have written published works who never call themselves anything. As I had mentioned about a year ago, if a mime has to tell the audience what he is doing, he isn't doing it very well. JLS At 11:24 AM 9/6/02 -0400, you wrote: >Sometimes bluntness is a virtue, and BD's just shown why . I looked at >the earlier, 150 image version of Wang's "book." One is simply struck >dumb by this enterprise, a remarkable monument both to an unreflecting >hutzpah and a staggering hubris (you can quote this on your cover blurb, >Alfie). > >Chandos > > > > >At 10:48 AM 9/6/02 -0400, you wrote: > >>I agree B.D. >> >>His "craft" is easily the worst I have seen in a long time. >> >>The really pathetic part is labeling himself an "Existentialist" I always >>thought critics and reviewers did that. >> >> >>sl >> >> >> > Okay, enough is a bleeping nuff! It's time to point out that the bleeping >> > Emperor is stark raving naked - and more than a bit mad! >> > >> > What is the theory here - call yourself a photographer - or, in this >> case, a >> > "street photographer/documentary photographer" and you ARE one? Drop a >> load >> > of crap off at Kinkos for printing and you are a PUBLISHED photographer? >> > >> > Over the past year or two numerous people on this and other lists have >> > looked at Alfie's work and tried to offer him constructive criticism. >> And he >> > has ignored all of it - which would be fine if he exhibited one >> scintilla of >> > talent or originality and was developing a unique style and vision. >> > >> > But he hasn't, and he isn't... >> > >> > The idea that someone would hold himself out as a "photographer" whose >> work >> > is worth of collecting - with an autograph for God's sake?! - while >> offering >> > this kind of crap - and I use the word advisedly - to the world is truly >> > appalling. >> > >> > I know that there will be those of you who will say that I am being mean >> > spirited, nasty, or any number of other things. What I am being is honest. >> > >> > What Alfie is doing is demeaning and insulting to all of us who have spent >> > years working at our craft - whether as hobbyists or professionals - >> honing >> > our skills to the point where we can honestly say, "I am a photographer." >> > >> > Please, for the sake of your own integrity as photographers, do not >> continue >> > to humor him and play along with this insulting nonsense. >> > >> > B. D. Colen >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Albert Wang >> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:23 AM >> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> > Subject: [Leica] FS: Photo books and prints by Albert Wang, first three >> > copies for free. >> > >> > >> > For sale: >> > >> > 1) Postcards of an Existentialist Paperback Monograph >> > >> > Postcards of an Existentialist, despite its title isn't a French >> > existentialist treatise but in terms of its outlook of life influenced by >> > Samuel Beckett, Jean-Paul Sartre, Eugene Richards, Eric Dolphy, and >> Ornette >> > Coleman. It is a personal two-year (2001-2) diary about one man's >> coming to >> > terms with his own depression and loneliness as he returns from graduate >> > school back to the city where he moved away from. It's a dour yet >> ironic and >> > bitterly humorous portrait of Philadelphia (w/ a few shots of New York >> City) >> > and it's a stark contrast to any of the daintily pretty pictures we >> tend to >> > see of the Liberty Bell or Independence Hall. Instead, what we have >> here is >> > a brutally honest photo-journal of a documentary take of the photographer >> > being viewed with suspicion and distrust or ignorance. It's a visual >> > illustration of the quote from Cool Hand Luke: "What we have here is a >> > failure to communicate." >> > >> > The 107 page book is printed in halftone with plastic covers. The >> dimension >> > of the book is 8.5 inches by 11 inches. >> > >> > Cost of the book: $30 plus $10 shipping and handling. >> > >> > 2) Complete set of all 96 prints done by the photographer himself and >> signed >> > on verso. The only size I can print at is 8.5 inches by 11 inches. The >> > prints are sleeved in an archival quality Itoya binder. The person has a >> > choice of options as follows: >> > >> > a) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on Epson >> > Archival Matte Paper (192 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder. >> > >> > Cost of the set of prints: $150 plus $20 shipping and handling and >> > insurance. >> > >> > b) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Matte Paper (170 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder. >> > >> > Cost of the set of prints: $300 plus $20 shipping and handling and >> > insurance. >> > >> > c) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 188 (188 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder. >> > >> > Cost of the set of prints: $500 plus $20 shipping and handling and >> > insurance. >> > >> > d) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308 (308 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder. >> > >> > Cost of the set of prints: $600 plus $20 shipping and handling and >> > insurance. >> > >> > I am willing to consider other papers (except glossy) such as Legion Photo >> > Matte on special request but at present, this is what is being offered. >> > >> > 3) A choice of 96 prints done by the photographer himself and signed on >> > verso. The only size I can print at is 8.5 inches by 11 inches. The prints >> > are unmatted and will be shipped with a matte board of 11 inches by 14 >> > inches. The person has a choice of options as follows: >> > >> > a) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted print on Epson >> Archival >> > Matte Paper (192 gsm). >> > >> > Cost of the prints: $10 plus $5 shipping and handling and insurance. >> > >> > b) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted print on Hahnemuhle >> > Photo Matte Paper (170 gsm). >> > >> > Cost of the set of prints: $20 plus $5 shipping and handling and >> insurance. >> > >> > c) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted print on Hahnemuhle >> > Photo Rag 188 (188 gsm). >> > >> > Cost of the set of prints: $40 plus $5 shipping and handling and >> insurance. >> > >> > d) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted prints on Hahnemuhle >> > Photo Rag 308 (308 gsm). >> > >> > Cost of the set of prints: $50 plus $5 shipping and handling and >> insurance. >> > >> > I am willing to consider other papers (except glossy) such as Legion Photo >> > Matte on special request but at present, this is what is being offered. >> > >> > When ordering prints, use a description of the picture which is shown in >> > either the book or the CD-ROM. >> > >> > 4) The complete book on CD-ROM in Abode Acrobat pdf format. >> > >> > Plain non-archival quality CD-ROM without a sleeve which a person can use >> > the catalog to order prints. >> > >> > Cost of the non-archival catalog: $.50 plus $4 shipping and handling. >> > >> > For more information or to order please contact Albert Wang at >> > leica_phile@hotmail.com accordingly. Thanks again for your consideration. >> > >> > Albert "Alfie" Wang >> > Freelance Street/Documentary Photographer >> > 1122 Brill St. >> > Philadelphia PA 19124 >> > leica_phile@hotmail.com >> > (215) 668-1809 >> > >> > >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html