Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/04/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]make a print or develop a film is very very easy BUT (now holdon.. don't jump on my tongue yet) make a perfect print and perfect negative isn't easy. I try and try and try so many times and yet, still not anywhere to pro level who in this list, so no need to say further of what Ansel Adam had done on his print and negative. it is time consumming. this is how i do for my neg and print. neg developt normal with D76 or tmax developer take 8 to 12 mins. fix take about 8 to 10 mins, wash take about 10mins. dry about 2 to 3 hours. that is a roll of 35mm. so total time about 2 and 1/2 hours / roll without any manipulation in developing. Ansel Adam, god know what he did. he had his own styles with those large format and zone system N n+1 n+2 etc. printing, let say ... first prove print, then 1 print, then look at the print next 1/2 hour to finger out what need to be done, then try again with new way, then again look at it ,, then again reprint if needed , then burn and dogging. wash, dry, It ai'nt easy to make a good print at all.. not at all by theway, i look at ansel adam print on online gallery and man.. i am in love Olivier >From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Ansel Adams on PBS TV >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:16:43 -0400 > >You don't have to labor over an 8x10 neg in the darkroom to appreciate >Ansel >Adam's darkroom craft. All you have to have done is gone in a darkroom once >and tried to print anything, and you understand what he was able to >accomplish. > >However, before you suggest that it's such a snap to make "perfectly >beautiful digital prints," I suggest that you don't know what's involved in >doing that until you've spent "hours" in front of a monitor "trying to get >a(n image) just right." It's done in daylight, and it's a dry process - but >it is not a snap by any stretch of the imagination. Same kinds of >challenges; different set of tools. > >B. D. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Allan >Wafkowski >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:23 PM >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >Subject: [Leica] Re: Ansel Adams on PBS TV > > >As in anything, there are some people who can't appreciate a craft >without having the experience of having done it themselves. I think that >if you have spend hours in a darkroom trying to get a print just right, >you are better prepared to understand the excellence of Adam's work. >Perhaps it's confusing at this moment in time with the advent of the >digital "darkroom." One can make perfectly beautiful digital art and >still be unaware of the craft of the darkroom. > >Allan > > >On Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 10:42 AM, Henry Ting wrote: > > He is both a craftsman and an artist who knows how to > > control the result he wants. It's an art he fine-tuned > > to a point that he has total control over his style. > > Now, not all people like his work, but there is no > > denying that he developed a style that is uniquely > > his. > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html No Archive _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html