Re: [Leica] Terror

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen2001@yahoo.ca>]

Alan - While you are of course correct that individual
terrorists cannot be rooted out or eliminated by a
massive military response, I believe that such a
response will definitely serve to reduce if not
eliminate the willingness of certain nations to give
safe harbor to these madmen. The mewling of the
Taliban - show us proof and we'll give you Bin Laden -
is already an indication of how such a policy might
work. The Taliban realize that what happened at the
Trade Towers could look like an end of summer
fireworks display compared to what may come down on
their heads. Our friend Kadhafi (sp) has reportedly
largely gotten out of the terrorism business after it
became clear to him that he wouldn't have much of a
country left if he stayed in it. And, it goes without
saying that if there are clear ties between the NY
bunch and Bin Laden, AND it can be shown that Bin
Laden and his networks are getting support from Sadam,
there is absolutely no question that it is time to
finish the business that was left very much unfinished
during the Gulf war.

I understand that you have military experience.
Interestingly, however, almost every case of
"terrorism" you site is war fought by victims of
colonial oppression. (No, I am not defending the IRA
or the Protestant terrorists of Northern Ireland, who,
at this point, clearly deserve each other, and, in
MHO, should be left by Britain to their own devices to
destroy each other.)

Sorry, but that's the way I see things. And I would
politely suggest that I am no more blinded by anger
than you are by your world-view - which, based on the
last section quoted, is quite clearly anti-Israel and
pro-Palestinian. You and I both know that had Isreal
gone along with those UN resolutions, there would be
no Israel today.  (And I am not, for a nano-second,
supporting in word or dead Israel's violation, within
its borders, of its Arab citizens). True, my suggested
response will not completely eliminate terrorism - but
yours will only encourage it.


> Alan Hull wrote:
> > 
> > I believe that this discussion is the most
> important discussion this group
> > has ever engaged in.  This is life and death, and
> ALL means to dissuade the
> > US and NATO from blindly lashing out with
> knee-jerk anger should be used.
> > 
> > Please Please Please, cut through the grief and
> somehow touch base with
> > humanity and try to understand that the white hot
> hatred that drives suicide
> > bombers will not be cured by a military response. 
> If your anger is so
> > intense that you are unable to touch this base
> then use cold hearted logic
> > and realise that if the US and NATO escalate this
> event then the next time
> > the bombers strike it could be nuclear.  Solve the
> root problem, and this
> > type of terrorism will go away
> > 
> > I sincerely hope that my contribution to this
> topic has not lowered the high
> > standard of debate that has taken place here.  I
> do not have the education
> > to take this discussion further.  I have spent
> nine years in the British
> > military during a time when the primary enemy were
> terrorists from Northern
> > Ireland, Malaysia, Borneo, Kenya and the Yemen.  I
> look at my four year old
> > daughter now and shudder with fear for her.
> > 
> > Quote from the URL below from Jim Muir of the BBC.
> > The fact is that for more than five decades, in
> defiance of countless UN
> > resolutions and of international law, the
> Palestinians' land has been
> > occupied and their rights ignored by Israel, with
> full diplomatic cover and
> > open-ended financial and military backing from
> Washington
> > End of Quote
> > 
> >
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1540000/1540364.st
> > m
> > 
> > Alan
> 
> 


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