Re: [Leica] Dave Beckerman has switched to Leica

[Mike Gil <dtt2150@yahoo.com>]

Maybe, I'm just asking the question, see Paula Nelson
from the The Dallas Morning use of a Yashica A for her
trip to Italy
www.dallasnews.com/travel2/europenew/393876_paulaitaly_00t.html
looks good to me.

Mike Gil

- --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> First off, are you seriously suggesting that it is
> fair to compare a
> Yashica 124G which costs how much, with a Hasselblad
> or Rollei?
> 
> Second, let's all get a grip here and consider how
> many of us take
> "magnificent" photos that are going to suffer in
> major ways from being
> shot with Yashica's? And how much worse are the
> Yashica's lenses from
> the ancient Leica glass used by HCB to make many of
> his iconic images?
> (I know, I know, it's Leica 'glow,' it's not Leica
> flare and blurr.) ;-)
> 
> B. D.
> 
> "Nguyen, Olivier T [AMSTA-AR-CCF]" wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mike,
> > I have yashica 124G camera.  it is not that good
> at all in compare to
> > HAsselblad and rolleiflex.  it does not have the
> sparkle feeling as
> > rolleiflex and smooth shine of hasselblad in
> picture quality.  I sold the
> > camera to people on ebay about 1/2 year ago and I
> would suggest anyone who
> > want to go for medium format, please don't go
> Yashica.  don't waste your
> > time and efford on some magnificent picture that
> you want to capture on
> > Yashica because you will never get the quality you
> want.
> > 
> > olivier
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Gil [mailto:dtt2150@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:22 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Dave Beckerman has switched
> to Leica
> > 
> > Im not a mind reader so tell me what your
> thinking.
> > 
> > Now can a Leica rangefinder make a good
> photographer a
> > better one? Maybe, maybe people prefer images
> created
> > with Leica rangefinder more than with other glass.
>  An
> > if this subjectively makes them a better photog in
> > peoples mind the better for the photog.  I was
> > re-reading Jonathan Eastland book the Leica M
> > Compendium and the process he went in sorting his
> old
> > slides and rediscovering the Leica look in his
> > photographs.  They just popped out at him.
> > 
> > I shoot with Hasselblads, Leica M & R's, and
> Nikons.
> > And if you believe me or not people can always
> tell
> > which ones where taken with the Leica M.  They say
> its
> > different, it gives them an unique look, they
> almost
> > feel like they are their, it makes them look
> deeper
> > into the photograph.  I don't think I use a
> > significant different technique when I shoot with
> > different glass or format, its has to be the
> Leica.  I
> > know this is only peoples opinions, a chart won't
> show
> > it but isn't what people feel, what we are really
> > interested in.
> > 
> > I just acquired a Yashica 124G and can't wait to
> see
> > what results I'll get.  Can it make me give up my
> > Hasselblads?  I'm holding my opinion until I and
> other
> > people see the result.  Will it contradict
> everything
> > I said.  If it does then I will change my opinion,
> I
> > hope we are flexible enough that we can change our
> > opinion and grow from life experiences.
> > 
> > mg
> > 
> > --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Gil wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please don't make us, use Holga's.  Have you
> seen
> > > some
> > > > of this stuff.  I think seeing light leaks
> into
> > > the
> > > > frame is not a cool thing.  Or the other half
> > > dozen
> > > > random effects created by this plastic camera.
> > > Most
> > > > pictures taken with a Holga look like they
> > > accidently
> > > > took off the top of the film developing can
> before
> > > the
> > > > film was fixed, smeared vaseline on the lens
> and
> > > used
> > > > the wrong lens hood.  HCB would not be HCB
> with a
> > > > Brownie, imagine him showing a portfolio full
> of
> > > > technically weak photographs to an editor.
> > > >
> > >
> > > First off, I said nothing about Holgas, and I
> > > suspect you do know
> > > precisely what I was talking about. Second, and
> I'd
> > > better get down in
> > > the trench and prepare for incoming, but HCB
> took,
> > > and published, many
> > > technically weak photos. So what's your point?
> That
> > > using a Leica will
> > > make a mediocre photographer a good one, and a
> good
> > > photographer a great
> > > one?
> > >
> > > Sorry, but that is complete and utter BS. Using
> a
> > > Leica will make a
> > > mediocre photographer a mediocre photographer
> with
> > > sharp images. And a
> > > good photogapher a good photographer with good
> > > images.
> > >
> > > Come on, folks...It's a great tool - for some
> > > people. It's not a magic
> > > wand.
> > >
> > > B. D.
> > 
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