Re: [Leica] Dave Beckerman has switched to Leica

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

First off, are you seriously suggesting that it is fair to compare a
Yashica 124G which costs how much, with a Hasselblad or Rollei?

Second, let's all get a grip here and consider how many of us take
"magnificent" photos that are going to suffer in major ways from being
shot with Yashica's? And how much worse are the Yashica's lenses from
the ancient Leica glass used by HCB to make many of his iconic images?
(I know, I know, it's Leica 'glow,' it's not Leica flare and blurr.) ;-)

B. D.

"Nguyen, Olivier T [AMSTA-AR-CCF]" wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> I have yashica 124G camera.  it is not that good at all in compare to
> HAsselblad and rolleiflex.  it does not have the sparkle feeling as
> rolleiflex and smooth shine of hasselblad in picture quality.  I sold the
> camera to people on ebay about 1/2 year ago and I would suggest anyone who
> want to go for medium format, please don't go Yashica.  don't waste your
> time and efford on some magnificent picture that you want to capture on
> Yashica because you will never get the quality you want.
> 
> olivier
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Gil [mailto:dtt2150@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:22 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Dave Beckerman has switched to Leica
> 
> Im not a mind reader so tell me what your thinking.
> 
> Now can a Leica rangefinder make a good photographer a
> better one? Maybe, maybe people prefer images created
> with Leica rangefinder more than with other glass.  An
> if this subjectively makes them a better photog in
> peoples mind the better for the photog.  I was
> re-reading Jonathan Eastland book the Leica M
> Compendium and the process he went in sorting his old
> slides and rediscovering the Leica look in his
> photographs.  They just popped out at him.
> 
> I shoot with Hasselblads, Leica M & R's, and Nikons.
> And if you believe me or not people can always tell
> which ones where taken with the Leica M.  They say its
> different, it gives them an unique look, they almost
> feel like they are their, it makes them look deeper
> into the photograph.  I don't think I use a
> significant different technique when I shoot with
> different glass or format, its has to be the Leica.  I
> know this is only peoples opinions, a chart won't show
> it but isn't what people feel, what we are really
> interested in.
> 
> I just acquired a Yashica 124G and can't wait to see
> what results I'll get.  Can it make me give up my
> Hasselblads?  I'm holding my opinion until I and other
> people see the result.  Will it contradict everything
> I said.  If it does then I will change my opinion, I
> hope we are flexible enough that we can change our
> opinion and grow from life experiences.
> 
> mg
> 
> --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mike Gil wrote:
> > >
> > > Please don't make us, use Holga's.  Have you seen
> > some
> > > of this stuff.  I think seeing light leaks into
> > the
> > > frame is not a cool thing.  Or the other half
> > dozen
> > > random effects created by this plastic camera.
> > Most
> > > pictures taken with a Holga look like they
> > accidently
> > > took off the top of the film developing can before
> > the
> > > film was fixed, smeared vaseline on the lens and
> > used
> > > the wrong lens hood.  HCB would not be HCB with a
> > > Brownie, imagine him showing a portfolio full of
> > > technically weak photographs to an editor.
> > >
> >
> > First off, I said nothing about Holgas, and I
> > suspect you do know
> > precisely what I was talking about. Second, and I'd
> > better get down in
> > the trench and prepare for incoming, but HCB took,
> > and published, many
> > technically weak photos. So what's your point? That
> > using a Leica will
> > make a mediocre photographer a good one, and a good
> > photographer a great
> > one?
> >
> > Sorry, but that is complete and utter BS. Using a
> > Leica will make a
> > mediocre photographer a mediocre photographer with
> > sharp images. And a
> > good photogapher a good photographer with good
> > images.
> >
> > Come on, folks...It's a great tool - for some
> > people. It's not a magic
> > wand.
> >
> > B. D.
> 
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