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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: printing hero
From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@home.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:12:13 -0700
References: <200108142006.NAA25584@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> <26660.997860857@www22.gmx.net>

Printing and discussing how and why,  much like discussing politics and
religion is almost a no no, unless the two parties have access to the same
darkroom, negative and are freely standing beside each other during the
comparison.

Here the print of the rookie and that of the master, quite possibly both
viewed separately look fine, however, place them side by each for comparison
and both parties can then discuss something tangible not imagined on a
computer screen text.

This topic, printing, as many others on the LUG, are not really worth while
banging heads over unless the two parties can compare equally and precisely
the same two prints while in company of each other.

Please go take pictures, life is much simpler.
ted

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Ted Grant Photography Limited
www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "christian becker" <polylux@gmx.co.uk>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:34 AM
Subject: [Leica] Re: printing hero


> No. I think NOONE can print my pictures like I do. Only I know what I want
> to achieve. Therefore I would never ever leave this important part of work
to
> someone else.
> But that is a straight process. I saw it, I took it, I interprete it.
> Brian could be ten times smarter than me - yet he would print his picture
> from my neg., not mine. Regardless of whether we talk about it long or
short.
>
> For me there is nothing like the perfect print. Over-/under, blurred, it
> only has to reflect my view. Sometimes at will, sometimes out of mistakes.
Yes,
> I still hope to make enough mistakes.
>
> William Klein's pictures (e.g.) are not 'bad', they are HIS prints, and I
> very much like the way they are. Dick Arentz, on the other hand is a
master in
> platinum printing. I own his book on platinum printing. He is really an
> expert, he has a lot to say about it. But how comes his pictures are so
dull, so
> average to me? Maybe because he concentrates so much on making beautiful
> prints instead of SAYING something.
>
> So if Brian and I would print one of my negs I would bet Brians prints
would
> be marvelous, but mine would reflect my view and therefore be the only
> relevant one. Take it or leave it.
> On the other hand I could take Brian's negs as a source and find very
> different pictures in them. Mine. My printing, my view.
>
> Printing is not an art. It is at best mastery of a process in view of an
> intended result. I see no rules, no better or worse.
>
>
> PS.:Sorry I left out my name in the mail header by mistake. Maybe mailing
is
> an art and I should have Brian mail my thoughts?
>
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