Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/03

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Sins Of My Youth, Part 1
From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:02:03 -0700
References: <3B6AD058.BB9C68EF@2alpha.net>

"Peter A. Klein" wrote:
> 
> shino@ubspainewebber.com says:
> 
> > i think it's a very nice photo, and a very nice scan.
> > the tonality of the overalls and the texture of the
> > walls are nicely captured.  it would have been very
> > easy to crank the contrast up too much.
> 
> > shows you what a leica, tri-x and d76 can do! :-)
> 
> Thanks!  But Tri-X sure has improved in the last 29 years.  Compare
> these two:
> 
> 1972:  http://www.2alpha.com/~pklein/oldpics/framer.htm  (Tri-X, D76
> 1:1,
> DR 50 Summicron).
> 
> 2001:  http://www.2alpha.com/~pklein/currentpics/mischabutter.jpg (Tri-X
> 2001,
> processing by Kodak in T-Max developer, 35mm pre-asph Summicron.
> Subject
> is my late father-in-law, Mischa).
> 
> Tri-X today seems almost as good as Plus-X was in the 70s.  Granted,
> there are also differences in lens and developer, but still...
> 
> Speaking of which, is there any advantage to using T-Max developer on
> Tri-X?  Or is that what Kodak uses on all B&W because it works and they
> don't have to change chemicals?
> 
> --Peter

Geese Peter! not real scientific to put it mildly! If you only had run the later
Tri x in D76 1:1 as well we'd have a real comparison!!
Many people (Erwin perhaps?) feel tri x had gone downhill over the decades. aint
what it used to be.
Its true that "half and half" is really "one third - two thirds" so i'd belive anything.
Tri harder x...

The fact that Ansel Adams shot and got such results from it in medium format (in
the 1970's) instead of 100 speed films or slower (on his tripod) is something
(and in HC-110 yet) that many have to toss and turn over every night after
running their 100 speed sheet film in an acutance developer.
The world is only interesting because of all the aberrations, aberrances, and
anomalies. 
Not to mention the aborigines!


Mark Rabiner

Portland, Oregon
USA

http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/

In reply to: Message from "Peter A. Klein" <pklein@2alpha.net> (Re: [Leica] Sins Of My Youth, Part 1)