Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/06/17

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M vs R musing...
From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@home.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:41:24 -0700
References: <008701c0f780$2efed0e0$e904c53f@pacbell.net>

Ken Iisaka wrote:
>>>>>> I was rather astonished to see that the success rate was a lot lower
with
> the SLR than my M.  The lenses that I used most are virtually identical:
the
> Canadian Summicron-M 50mm and the Canadian Summicron-R 50mm (II).  Under
> microscope, it took no time to realize that I do not focus as accurately
> with the R, and there is more blur from the mirror.<<<<<

Hi Ken,

Naw Ken it's called practice! ;-)  The more you use it, the better you'll
get. And sooner or later you'll love it as equally as your other child, the
"M!"

And as far as the mirror creating any squigglies, I'd bet a hundred if
you're hand holding and getting squigglies,the squiggles are the fault of
you. now if you're shooting at long exposure macro stuff I suppose there is
a possibility of some effect from the mirror, as some folks do mirror
lock-up before shooting.

Not something I've ever done in all my years of R use, but then that's me.
;-)

>>>> I suppose that these observations shouldn't be a surprise, but it
reinforced
> the notion to me that an SLR is a specialized equipment most suited for
> macrophotography and telephotography, and for exact composition with a
> tripod.<<<<<

Naw it's still practice old buddy, as they are made for everyday fun and
serious shooting, paid and non paid assignments, portraits, macro, super
teles and super wides and a zillion types of happy snaps. And can be used
with any other kind of lens you can mount.  I wouldn't dismiss the SLR
cameras to macro & tele simply because you can probably do a greater
variation of photography with an SLR than one can with the M.

Now lets not have a come back about the Visio thingie, as that doesn't count
in this discussion. ;-)thank you.

And as far as accurate composition and being on a tripod, that's another
fallacy, as those of us who are regular SLR users do accurate composition
all the time. Actually one can hand hold and compose far more accurately
with the SLR than you can an M camera.

Oh damn, now I know I've said that there'll be a dozen posts in great
disagreement, dang!
But what the hell I don't care as that's how I work and my "happy snaps"
look not too bad. ;-)

So Ken me man, stay relaxed, shoot lots more and you'll soon be putting some
incredible images on film with that old SL2 MOT! It's a wonderful camera and
if I had a dollar for every frame I put through mine many years ago,today
I'd be a very rich man.
ted

Ted Grant Photography Limited
www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant

In reply to: Message from "Ken Iisaka" <ken@iisaka.org> ([Leica] M vs R musing...)