Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/05/12

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Subject: [Leica] Re: RE: Konica fiction
From: Jim Brick <jim@brick.org>
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 09:43:22 -0700
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How long has Konica been making M cameras ?

How long has Leica/Leitz been making M cameras ?

thanks,

Jim


At 11:40 PM 5/12/01 +0800, apbbeijing wrote:
>> No one is being disrespectful of Konica nor of their heritage:  I am simply
>> attempting to ensure that all of us understand the historical record,
>> myself included!
>
>Marc,
>
>I appreciate the rigour of your historical inquiry.
>
>I am afraid that, though certainly interesting, it was not central to the
>issue under discussion. I perceived rightly or wrongly that the heritage of
>Konica had been belittled and was simply trying to bring a little
>perspective to the case. Konica is IMHO and IME fully capable of producing a
>very fine M compatible camera that is up to professional use in demanding
>situations. That had been directly challenged in Jim Brick's original
>statement about how any pro going out with a Hexar RF was on thin ice if he
>thought it would work with M lenses. Well I and others do precisely that
>without falling through ice and it is I contend not due to improbable good
>luck or my own low standards that I am satisfied with it.
>
>The relative age of Leica and Konica was rather tangential to the whole
>discussion: I brought up the lineage of Konica, which is by all accounts one
>where photography has been a core business for much longer than chez Leitz,
>to support my contention that they are not incompetent and inexperienced
>camera makers as many might be led to believe by the rather offhand remarks
>that prompted the whole exchange.
>
>The whole heritage thing seems a bit overstated to me: Leica does not yet
>and has no publicly stated intention of producing a camera with the feature
>set of the Hexar RF so if you want or need these features and they work, as
>indeed they do, it seems specious to attack the company as lacking in
>heritage and thus dismiss a fine product that does things the gnomes of
>Solms and their disciples with all their love of history can only dream of.
>It is a bit like saying that Toyota cars cannot work as well as Fords
>because they don't have the heritage.
>
>It is not just one's understanding of history that is brought into question
>by such statements.
>
>
>Rs
>
>Adrian
>
>
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