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Subject: Re: Too much: was Re: [Leica] europe on 1 roll a day
From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@terra.es>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:45:04 +0200
References: <200104161400.KAA29125@unix3.netaxs.com> <3ADB9E50.31A2F135@umich.edu> <00ed01c0c726$434a4780$02001aac@terra.es> <3ADC421B.FAE0DBE1@umich.edu>

You should have given me a call!!

Julian
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dante A. Stella" <dante@umich.edu>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Too much: was Re: [Leica] europe on 1 roll a day


>
> Julian -
>
> I was there in late November last year (and as a result of being gone so
long
> got so far behind at the office that I only managed to bang out the last
of the
> prints this week).  If the Gaudi stuff is of any interest, I will scan
more of
> it.  I have done about 16 prints of his buildings.  Or I could continue
with
> the Spain-and- Portugal-in-a-turbo-diesel station wagon series...
>
> Cheers
> Dante
>
> Julian Thomas wrote:
>
> > When were you in Barcelona?? I live two mins from La Pedrera, that roof
is
> > amazing!
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dante A. Stella" <dante@umich.edu>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 3:37 AM
> > Subject: Too much: was Re: [Leica] europe on 1 roll a day
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kyle Cassidy wrote:
> > >
> > > > frank's thinking of going to europe and only bringing a brick of
film
> > ...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is Kyle wanting to take too much film?
> > >
> > > 40 rolls of 36 is 1440 exposures +/-.
> > > 20 rolls of 36 is 720 exposures
> > >
> > > In the past year, I have completed two 21-day trips to Europe, having
> > > photographed everything I saw as even conceivably photogenic and I
shot
> > far,
> > > far less film.  On trips of this length, I usually take 8 rolls of
Supra
> > 400
> > > (or in the past, PMC) and 24 rolls of TX120 (at 15 exposures each).
> > That's
> > > 360 + 288, or 648 frames.  This, in my experience, has provided ample
> > > opportunity to:
> > >
> > > o    Shoot color duplicates of black and white shots taken in 120 as
well
> > as
> > > different angles
> > >
> > > o    Do realistic and calculated bracketing with the medium format
camera
> > >
> > > o    Take plenty of color pictures of my girlfriend in front of
things.
> > >
> > > o    Take plenty of people "grab shots."
> > >
> > > This program works out to about 17 frames in 120 and 13 frames of 35mm
per
> > > day, or less than one roll of 36.  In 11 trips to Europe and 1 trip
> > through
> > > southeast Asia, this rate has generally held.  If you are into
completely
> > > indiscriminate street shooting, I can't say that this would be enough.
> > >
> > >
> > > > 40 rolls of film doesn't take up that much space -- take them out of
the
> > > > plastic cannisters and the cardboard boxes first. you'll be fine.
> > >
> > > This is not solely a matter of space (for me it is space too, given
the
> > size
> > > of the bags I take), but really one of discipline.  I don't think you
need
> > to
> > > take a ton of film (especially not color neg).  I have always found
that
> > the
> > > more film I have (or the cheaper it is), the worse the photos and the
more
> > > indiscriminately they are made.
> > >
> > > o    Take it easy, appreciate the sight, and wait until the correct
> > moment.
> > > Doing this not only helps you learn about what it is you are taking a
shot
> > > of, but it also prevents you from rationalizing not paying attention
> > because
> > > "you will have a picture of it later."
> > >
> > > o    Work to take the picture that no one else has taken (or could
take).
> > > Don't make a photo that anyone can duplicate (or better) by buying a
> > > Kodachrome postcard from a street vendor.
> > >
> > > o    Think of every color picture as costing 75 cents and each picture
you
> > > print yourself  costing $100.  Make each picture count.  Life is too
short
> > to
> > > waste it printing or sorting bad pictures that could have been
prevented
> > with
> > > a little effort.
> > >
> > > Here is the making of this week's (travel) picture,
> > >
> > > http://www-personal.umich.edu/~dante/settimana2.html
> > >
> > > which shows the quick grab banal "notebook" shot (color) and then the
more
> > > studied black and white version.
> > >
> > > They were taken about 20 minutes apart, but that 20 minutes was time I
> > spent
> > > wandering around the roof of Casa Mila watching the light and the
shadows.
> > > The black and white photo, once I found the viewpoint, only took one
frame
> > > and one minute to shoot (to be fair, it took an hour of printing to
> > determine
> > > where the (phantom) midtones should be).
> > >
> > > I often find it useful to take a quick color snap if only for
reference in
> > > printing the b/w later.
> > >
> > > Dante
> > >
> > >
>
>

In reply to: Message from Kyle Cassidy <cassidy@netaxs.com> ([Leica] europe on 1 roll a day)
Message from "Dante A. Stella" <dante@umich.edu> (Too much: was Re: [Leica] europe on 1 roll a day)
Message from "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@terra.es> (Re: Too much: was Re: [Leica] europe on 1 roll a day)
Message from "Dante A. Stella" <dante@umich.edu> (Re: Too much: was Re: [Leica] europe on 1 roll a day)