Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/03/20

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M3 with 50 1.0 Noctilux
From: "A.H.SCHMIDT" <horsts@primus.com.au>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 01:07:00 +1100
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Well, Stanislaw, I don't quite get the "shame on you bit"

To your  next comment: I never said, and it would be stupid of me to
do so, that the Noctilux at F1 has not a very small d.o.f. However It
also depends on you focussing distance. If you
focus at  an object of say 30 or 50m or even infinitive, then the
depth of field is not such a problem. If you focus closer, it does not
always have to be a disadvantage.

I would suggest, you organize a Noctilux (buy, hire or borrow) one.
Until then, I don't think you are qualified to make your kind of
statements.

I don't believe, the rest of my mail was of topic. Of course, if there
where to many consecutive  words for you to comprehend, then I
apologize and the next mail, I'll split in two parts. Especially for
you. That should make it easier for you and give you a rest in
between.

Horst Schmidt






Stanislaw B.A. Stawowy wrote:

> > Look Stanislaw, don't be such an expert on things you don't own.
>
> I already said tyhat I am not and answered just because no
> Noctilux user steepped down from their glory and took a
> slightest effort to answer Austin. So shame on you, not me...
>
> > I,  do own a Noctilux
> > and have to say, there is so much uninformed talk about the
> > shallow depth of field of this superb lens.
> > Firstly, like any other lens, it is not always used at its full
> > aperture.
>
> So you say that Noctilux don't have shallow DOF wide open?
> I don't understand you here - we are talking about it wide open...
>
> > the exception. Most of the time, when I specially go out with
> > the Noctilux, I seldom go larger than f2.  Even so, the depth of
> > field at a close distance at f2 for example, (the largest
> > opening of a Summicron) is small too, nobody ever seems to
> > complain, that their Summicron is hard to focus.
>
> I will repeat again (and again, till you understand or I die):
> You can use and focus Noctilux accurately on nearly any M.
> Issue is: do M3 focus it better than M6. I think so, but
> I am not sure as I don't have a way to test it :)...
>
> Rest of your letter is off topic, unfortunately :-(
>
> -----
>                                 St.
>                      (Stanislaw B.A. Stawowy)
>               http://www.geocities.com/Stanislaw_Stawowy
>             Echelon/Carnivore lines: Bob Black, Hakim Bey,
>            Ralph Klein, Sabotage in the American Workplace

Replies: Reply from "Stanislaw B.A. Stawowy" <watteau@krakow.neurosoft.net> (Re: [Leica] M3 with 50 1.0 Noctilux)
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Message from "A.H.SCHMIDT" <horsts@primus.com.au> (Re: [Leica] M3 with 50 1.0 Noctilux)
Message from "Stanislaw B.A. Stawowy" <watteau@krakow.neurosoft.net> (Re: [Leica] M3 with 50 1.0 Noctilux)