[Leica] Re: Re: Bessa-T - let me get this straight...

[Jim Brick <jim_brick@agilent.com>]

Hey Ted,

After reading the C-V promotions, I couldn't help pulling on their chain.
Sure did stir the pot... Especially by the folks who use the LUG as a sales
tool.

I think the Cosina filibustering should be limited to "For Sale" Fridays.

;-) ;-)

As usual, you've injected a dose of reality into the whole debacle... :)

Jim


At 08:19 AM 3/16/01 -0800, Ted Grant wrote:
>Paul Chefurka wrote:
>>>> Those of you who think it's an idiotic piece of gear are under no
>compulsion to buy one. Those of you who can think of a possible niche for it
>in your work can buy one and try it out with little financial risk. Those
>(like me) who think it's a cool "objet d'art" but just isn't going to be
>practical given the way they shoot can pass on it but continue to admire a
>company that is prepared to ignore the received wisdom of the Nicanoltax
>(and even Leica) pundits and blaze its own trail.
>>
>> And let us not forget that Cosina is proving itself to be a most prolific
>generator of new gear. Who knows what is going to leap from their febrile
>imaginations into the camera stores in the next year or two?
>>
>> My reaction is that it's great to see a camera company that looks like
>it's having some fun for a change. <<<<<
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>Just arrived home and it seems there are a pile of postings regarding this
>new Bessa-T camera, a very interesting product indeed.
>
>However it does appear a number of our kindred souls have their usual anti
>the photo world comments when not knowing a thing about what goes on in the
>board room of C&V or Leica.  That's their prerogative.
>
>It appears this new camera is interesting, will I buy one? Not likely, only
>because  I'm Leica loaded and not in need of any new toys. ;-)
>
>> And let us not forget that Cosina is proving itself to be a most prolific
>generator of new gear. Who knows what is going to leap from their febrile
>imaginations into the camera stores in the next year or two? <<<<<<
>
>And that's what's so interesting about this company, they are doing things
>and coming out with items when they say they are. Not like the company we
>know who make our picture taking machines which we all dearly love and
>covet.
>
>I mean Leica at the moment can't get it right when they say they are making
>a lens and then pull it off the market before it goes anywhere. At least
>Cosina-V has been doing something exciting and imaginative compared to you
>know who.
>
>What I can't fathom for the life of me, is the locked down never look
>forward mentality of Solms to producing anything as simple as new lenses in
>the vane of C-V. Is it so difficult to use common sense and make lenses that
>sell for the prices C-V do and grab a pile of sales in the manner C-V have
>in the past year or so?
>
>Not having any idea whatsoever of total sales of say, the 15mm C-V since
>they made it available,  but I'd imagine it's a tidy sum that could've gone
>into the Leica coffers if they had some real-time imaginative business
>people looking at the world of Leica photography.
>
>But like I said earlier, there are Leica and C-V board room decisions made
>that no one on this site is privy to, therefore making any comment on
>management of either company is futile at best.
>
>So I figure those who will survive by wit and common sense will survive and
>those who crash blindly on in the old fashion way will probably fall by the
>wayside.  But then who am I to make those predictions? Certainly not any
>brighter nor better informed than all the others on the LUG!
>
>Bottom line? Hey take the lenses and cameras presented by C-V play and buy
>or not buy, but it isn't worth the screen it's written on to whine and bitch
>about what should, could, might have been!  About either company!
>Have a nice day. ;-) Go take pictures! :-)
>ted
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