Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/02/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> The reason that the Noct is made in Canada is simple economics and > production capacity. Erwin, First, thanks for your detailed information. Surely it is fair to extrapolate from your above comment and the unfortunate withdrawal of the 35-70/2.8 that Solms is not economically capable of producing the lenses (and motors and numerous other items) that they have said they would in the manner they announced they would. In which case it would be preferable to outsource as much as possible. No-one doubts that Solms is technically capable of making the 35-70/2.8 and the Noctilux and much more besides but the (unprecedented?) withdrawal of the former and the spotty availability of the latter (and a number of other items) and failure to shift production to Solms shows if nothing else that they have failed to do what they said they would. Of course in legal terms they are under no obligation to produce the goods they announce nor continue to produce the goods they don't want to but it is surely reasonable to be disappointed and even sceptical about the failure to keep up with even their own declared intentions. How to keep up? It would appear that the relationship with Minolta is long over and that the few items made in cooperation with them (16, 24, parts for R4-7?) are being sold as new old stock: some very old - even the latest 16s are marked 'Wetzlar' which dates them back to late 1980s at best. The one item made by Zeiss is now out of the catalogue before a replacement is available or even formally announced. Even Sigma has been cut out (or cut themselves out) and Sal tells us the very success of the Kyocera produced items may spell their doom. So what are Solms able to do to counter our concerns? Can they even supply what is in the current catalogue let alone come up with new items? This remains to be seen. By my assessment the line is losing more items than it is gaining and this is a worry: what is next for the chop? Someone mentioned a day or two ago the 180/2 is off the list. Whilst this is indeed a fine lens it is hardly the kind of product that was ever likely to sell much nor make much profit which makes me wonder what kind of people decide what goes in the product line. How about a more popular lens like a wide zoom or a fast wide lens (wider than 35mm that is) or a 1.4 converter that works with the shorter lenses (or the 180, 70-180 2.8s at least)? This is surely more the sort of thing Leica needs to get to market than a set of manual Apo modular lenses that in some cases are 50% heavier than the lenses they replaced (about which no-one ever complained to my knowledge) and which in any case are addressing a market Leica lost almost completely with the advent of AF. We are of course a forgiving lot we Leica fans but it would be nice to see that the company has a clear strategy and sense of direction: the advertising I see seems to be all over the place with references to past glory one day and technical wow the next, fashion icon here and serious tool there. Even when strong products are down to annual sales in the triple or even double digits Leica does not read the market to see why people are not buying: sometimes just a small adjustment might make it viable. In the case of the 35-70/2.8 the necessary adjustment seems from your and others' accounts to have been simply to raise the price. The revival of screw mount lenses, a pretty basic manufacturing proposition but a profitable one from a marketing point of view, seems to have been entirely due to the initiative of a Japanese business. We all of us have a wish list of things Leica could make but don't and there are even a few of us who can afford to pay for them! The single policy I would pursue if I were in charge of Leica would be to show as many great photos as possible taken with the products: even most pros have never seen how good Leica R lenses are so they would never get serious consideration. For myself it was only through a series of chance encounters that I ever got to see what the magic of Leica's best lenses meant in photographs and I only knew they were Leica lenses because of the extraordinary passion for the stuff exhibited by the photographers. Leica themselves did not seem to do anything to promote thisrr...When it was Leitz there seemed to be more of this kind of promotion and overt love of photography but that may be just my jaded view of things. Bests Adrian - -- Adrian Bradshaw Corporate and Editorial Photography Beijing, China tel/fax +86 10 6532 5112 mobile +86 139 108 22292 e-mail apbbeijing@yahoo.com OR adrianpeterbradshaw@compuserve.com website: http://www.apbphoto.com http://www.liaisonintl.com/bradshaw.htm http://www.liaisonintl.com/bradshaw_e.htm _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com