Re: [Leica] Re: Haas

["Dan Post" <dpost@triad.rr.com>]

Jim-
I guess I agree with you! I had no trouble seeing the site. It was great,
and it reminded me of my early days when guys like Phillipe Halsman and
Ernst Haas were very much alive and influential on a young fellow starting
to discover the magic of photography. I enjoyed the fact that they injected
not only an interesting view of the world, but seemed to do it oftentimes
with a toungue in cheek and more than a dash of humor.
They made photography fun. I still love photographing painted signs on
building, street fairs and festivals, and looking for that juxtaposition
that is both emotive and amusing at once.
The site brought back not a few fond memories!!
Dan (serious for  the moment) Post
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Brick" <jim@brick.org>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>; <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:30 PM
Subject: [Leica] Re: Haas


> Well... I've never loaded any special plug-ins to my Microsoft Internet
> Explorer 5.0 and it just displayed all of the neat stuff on the Haas site.
> I apologize for being so naive about a site that, to me, really caught my
> eye, peaked my interest, and all around Haass' incredible photographs.
>
> Sorry,
>
> Jim
>
>
> At 08:45 PM 12/6/00 -0500, Jeff Moore wrote:
> >2000-12-06-19:08:45 Jim Brick:
> >> For a real treat, go to:
> >>
> >> http://www.ernsthaasstudio.com
> >
> >Idiots.
> >
> >> A masterpiece in web design and photography.
> >
> >I won't quibble over the photos.  A masterpiece in web design?
> >Hardly.
> >
> >Let me count the ways.
> >
> >  1) Completely dependent on Flash 4, rather than anything
> >     standards-based.  Confines viewers to those willing to keep up
> >     with the browser-and-plugin-of-the-week race.
> >
> >  2) Doesn't even do what it purports to do -- display stuff if you
> >     have Flash 4 -- reliably.  The detection script (er, detection
> >     Flash movie) was apparently incapable of noticing that I do,
> >     indeed, have a v4.0 r12 Flash plugin.  I kept getting told to
> >     download a Flash plugin, which I HAD, dammit.  I had to look
> >     inside both the initial HTML page and the subsequent flash movie
> >     to find out that the net result of all that over-fancy detection
> >     magic should be the loading of
> >
> >       http://www.ernsthaasstudio.com/index2.html
> >
> >     which indeed consented to play once I asked for it by name.
> >
> >  3) It's an annoying mass of unnecessary animation which gets in the
> >     way of actually getting to the content.  The little navigation
> >     menus have to have their labels and the little lines they perch
> >     upon redraw oh-so-preciously before you can see 'em.  Then the
> >     same for the sub-menus.  If the photos and text are what you
> >     want, if you're not fascinated and entertained by the wondrous
> >     innovation (not!) of a Flash-based website squirming beneath your
> >     eyeballs, it's just wasted time.
> >
> >  4) Would that the images (you know, the photos?  the things of
> >     importance?) were larger.  One of the genuinely cool things about
> >     Flash is how well it scales to arbitrary-sized displays; but of
> >     course photos aren't vectorized like the intrinsic Flash stuff,
> >     and so (I fully understand) you can't something for nothing --
> >     more available image detail would require more bandwidth, longer
> >     load times.  But hey, *that* -- detecting the client's browser
> >     resolution and possibly even some notion of available bandwidth,
> >     and feeding images accordingly -- would actually be a truly worthy
> >     subject for detection magic, if possible.
> >
> >But it does look pretty.  Ever so tasteful.
> >
> >Oh, and the standard caveat: I'm *definitely* not speaking for my
> >employer...
> >
>