Re: [Leica] Re: Old news

[Walter S Delesandri <walt@jove.acs.unt.edu>]

Am I the only one who enjoys this junk?....I actually read and LIKE 
Erwin's posts....and Mike's.....they're both arrogant, pompous, 
and overly sensitive...so what?...both of them are essentially, 
and zealously, trying to prove their respective points AND 
worth!!!...both of them, and most of us, are the ''king'' of our 
respective little worlds, and our own little authorities....

I have to chuckle, tho....I wonder if Ansel Adams or Gene Smith 
either made 50,000 prints IN THEIR LIFETIMES?...(not counting 
contact images made in sheets...)

As far as "publishing" or "showing", one only has to look at 
any so-called "scholarly" journal, or most photography in galleries, 
to see that that ain't no claim to fame.....

Let them rant....let the REAL shooters (named many times before)
post their posts....esp Sal, Donal, Ted, Tina, etc....and read
and believe WHAT YOU WANT!!!

Unless, as Stephen suggested, this is a religeon....I prefer 
to think of it as a mild, somewhat enjoyable form of mental 
illness......

Walt

On
Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Jim Brick wrote:

> As I said earlier, Mike,
> 
> "If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is, stop digging."
> 
> I suggest that you do exactly that. Stop digging. You are probably half way
> to China by now.
> 
> Just in case you don't understand the metaphors, the "hole" is your
> credibility and the "digging" is everything that you say. The more you dig,
> the deeper you get. The more you say, the more credibility you lose.
> 
> I believe that you are lost to the LUG forever. No amount of digging can
> fix this. And jokes won't save you.
> 
> You have genuinely pissed off a lot of very nice, very very intelligent,
> very knowledgeable, hard working, well educated, dedicated, Leica using,
> from professional to amateur, folks.
> 
> Stop spewing untruths, innuendos, and diatribe.
> 
> Stop digging.
> 
> Jim
> 
> At 08:28 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Mike Johnston wrote:
> 
>   >> Erwin wrote:
>   >> So today I am picking up the telephone
>   >> and try to reach Mrs Zawadski to tell
>   >> her I know nothing about BW processing
> 
> >
> >Or, you could wait to call until you have some news.
> >
> >Sorry. That was a joke.
> >
> >Erwin, I just don't think you really have much of a clue. You just don't
> >seem to be able to address the real issues when you talk about photography
> >technically, aesthetically, or in terms of meaning. I think you throw off a
> >lot of smoke (not even all that well) but there's no fire there. I'm sorry,
> >but I really don't think you get it.
> >
> >Okay. So you think I'm a arrogant insulting bastard, and I think you're a
> >pompous clueless twit. Have we got that about straight?
> >
> >Everybody else here clear on what Erwin thinks of me, and what I think of
> >Erwin?
> >
> >Okay if we stop thrashing it out now? Let's just move our respective
> >soapboxes to opposite sides of the park and stop all the screaming, shall
> >we? It's giving me a headache.
> >
> >Anyone second the motion?
> >
> >--Mike 
> >
> > 
> > 
>