Re: [Leica] Court this

["A.H.SCHMIDT" <horsts@primus.com.au>]

Jay Coleman wrote:

> Amen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Ted
> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 7:30 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Court this
>
> somebody wrote:
>
> > > Why not have Leica make an EFFORT to COURT the LUG at this, and other
> shows?
>
> > Mike Jonston replied: :-)
>
> >>>>>Um, possibly because they consider us their lunatic fringe and they're
> actually terrified of the wild negative publicity our endless rumor
> mongering and
> disputatiousness might trigger?    Naaaaaaah.... <<<<<<<<
>
> Hi Mike and others,
> Imagine yourself the CEO of Leica, and then look back at the conversations
> of the
> past two weeks. I mean conversations in the loosest of terms, if we could
> call
> them that.
>
> Now ask yourself,  "Do I want this weird lot of Leica fringe freak LUGNUTS
>  and
> folks usually LUGNUT is used in a nice warm group atmosphere)  representing
> my
> company?"   In this case it really would mean, "NUTS!" Head cases, el bento
> freako's.
>
> Is there full moon at the moment or other weird something for this great
> group of
> human beings to almost all become a bunch of head cases every few months or
> so? We
> can be so damn supportive, helpful and an extremely caring group of people
> from
> day to day, then all of a sudden it's gone in the blink of an eye or twist
> of a
> word!
>
> We can be so damn down to earth helpful for weeks, some times months and
> then
> "WHAM IN YER FACE" it's like a herd of piranha  ripping at each other about
> something that in reality has absolutely nothing to do with the day to day
> realities of taking pictures with a Leica,  or any other make of camera.
>
> And whomever asked, "Why not have Leica make an EFFORT to COURT the LUG at
> this,
> and other shows?<<
>
> To answer this I come back to the CEO of Leica answering the above
> question.......... "Get lost mon ami el freakos! "
>
> Think about it! Do you folks have any idea how collectively moronically dumb
> assed
> stupid we look in the eyes of the management of  Leica every time we get all
> snitty assed as we've seen this past couple of weeks? It's no wonder Leica
> really
> doesn't take this connection as a gospel bunch of  Leica users!  Would you?
>
> I love you all for what you have given to me over the years, but my heavens
> sometimes I think the LUG should be on the dark side of the moon!
>
> ted

Well, I don't know. The reason I suspect we have our quite and our noisy days,
is because we're not a half hearted group. Most people here do have to say
something. sometime a bit louder than others. With 700 or more different
personalities, this is bound to happen. The main thing is, that things always
calm down again after a while. Most successful marriages are like this.
 I also can't really believe, that the Leica CEO  would be such a simple person
as not to see the whole picture. CEO's are not normally known to be simple
minded. It is just possible, that they can not see a commercial advantage
courting the LUG. They're loss.

I believe the LUG is such a great and diverse body of people with a lot to say.
Not always Leica ,thank god. The diversity of subjects which are often displayed
is refreshing and keeps the interest alive. Sooner or later, even with out of
topic subjects, someone manages to bring the Leica thread back in to it.

A group or club which only allows  a communication restricted to a very narrow
topic, (even if the name of it is points to it) ends up to be boring and finally
folds.

Just imagine, you've joint a club. Say a Dog club You'll find normally, that
when the main topic after the first hour or so has passed, the talk moves away
from it, to topics like: "Does  anybody know a cheap source of wood for my Kids
Cub house?" This then is normally the topic for the rest of the evening and
often privately after. At the next meeting, it starts all over again with the
main topic.

Regards Horst Schmidt