Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/09/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:51:46 -0400 From: Martin Howard <howard.390@osu.edu> Subject: Re: [Leica] Forbes article on mechanical wristwatches Message-ID: <B5E7D9F2.7001%howard.390@osu.edu> References: Bmceowen@aol.com jotted down the following: > Boy, let me just say I disagree. I expect only one thing from a watch -- to > be able to look at it and know what time it is. Any watch that fails to > perform this basic task is a piece of junk -- no matter what it costs . . . Time is a social construct. You *cannot* buy a watch which tells what the time is, since the current time is essentially arbitrary. There is nothing to say that the time my mechanical Swatch shows is any more or less accurate in absolute terms than the most expensive atomic clock on the planet. Consequently, certainly every watch fails that basic task and is therefore, by your definition, a piece of junk. Absolute statements are meaningless in a relative world. M. <<<<<< Actually Martin, at the risk of sounding pseudo sophisticated or whatever, social constructs _are_ absolute truths. The meter at Geneva, or wherever it is, is not an approximation to a meter, it defines the meter - by now it's superceded, of course, but still. And similarly, the time told by the official clock at greenwich _is_ the correct time. (Again, my factual detail may be out). Check Wittgenstein et al. on language games and private languages. A clock which is very accurately synchronised to the official clock is indeed telling the actual time. As the big W said, justifications come to an end somewhere. Where? in conventions and the rules of the game. In this case, the atomic clock which tells us - because we , the social whole, have decided to give it that function - what the real time is. Of course, the absolute truth may be a cultural variable. This is one argument I don't need to review! Or do I? Rob. Robert Appleby V. Bellentani 36 41100 MO Italy tel. (+39) 059 303436 mob. (+39) 0348 336 7990