Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/08/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Curious Dan- Here, let me get the smilies out of the way! :o) :o) :o) :o) :o)- insert where needed! Well- I have a sneaky suspicion that the area of the curtain measured by the M6 TTL and any other M6 is the average of the white dot and a certain area of black curtain around it- my dot isn't 'pure' white, either, but has a textured appearance. Insofar as a scene measuring 18% or 13%- Years ago when I started to learn photography, film was rated with a speed that gave the "minimum exposure necessary for adequate shadow detail...." according to the little 'dope' sheet that came with the film. Perhaps the 5% extra was a fudge factor! This would assure that if you metered off a gray card that the shadows would be adequately exposed even if there was a slight error in the meter reading.... remember, back then, we didn't have meters accurate to 1/100 of a stop, and we didn't worry about such tedious details! :o) They recalculated the so called 'speed point' of films later- and now the exposure guides, or ISO actually reflect a calculated exposure that places the shadow further up the 'toe' of the response curve. My feeling- and I get this "IT AIN"T EXACTLY AS IT APPEARS" feeling since I learned electronics in the Navy, and learned that the very expensive equipment I worked on had resistors and capacitors with tolerances of 1%, 5% and even 10%! I am sure that the extra 5%, if true, is a safety factor. It arssures an adequate exposure for those who don't take the time to shoot a roll, develop, then read the film with a densitometer to see what their exposure index should be with that film/meter/camera combination--- I've done that- it's neat to know what the actual EI is, but it's a tedious pain in the ass when you can give a little fudge factor to the mix, go out and shoot pictures without picking the fly spots out of the pepper! I used to be anal retentive, but 10 years on Prozac pretty much got me back to enjoying taking pictures, and not getting toooooo wrapped up in the minutiae! HAve fun! Trust your meter! BE happy! Eat butter! One white bread toast! Tou only come around once, and it your photos look good, do sweat it! Dan ( The other, really crazy one!) Post - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Honemann" <ddh@home.com> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:59 AM Subject: [Leica] white dot and metering > Ok, here's a dumb question (so those of you who have low tolerance for dumb > questions can skip to the next msg now). The M6 TTL meters off of a white > dot on the shutter curtain. Why isn't the dot 18% grey? Does the meter > test light reflected off both the white dot and some of the black curtain so > that the composite represents grey? > > I'm assuming the meter works by comparing the reflected light through the > lens to the light reflected off the white dot. > > And why do we use 18% grey cards anyway when "scientific studies now > indicate that an average scene actually reflects 13% (not 18%) of the light > that falls on it" (Peter Burian, _National Geographic Photography Field > Guide_, p.137)? > > Curious Dan > >