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Subject: Re: [Leica] Recipe for using Xtol developer; WAS: Variant on"Food for Leicas"
From: ksherman <ksherman@cottenmusic.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:57:02 -0500
References: <NBBBIDNIGLFOKNLJCPLHEEJCECAA.ddh@home.com>

mark, johnny, tina, ted and others....
i read of the 1:1 and 1:3 dilutions, but no one ever mentions 1:2.  i have
been using xtol in a 1:2 dilution and have been very pleased.  is there a
reason i should know of for why no one else ever mentions/uses xtol 1:2?
right now, during the summer months in nashville, i have to use it at 80
degrees.....it works great for me.....

thanks in advance....
kim



At 02:51 PM 8/15/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>on 15/8/00 1:13 pm, Dan Honemann at ddh@home.com wrote:
>
>> Dear Ted, Mark, Tina, Johnny and other Xtol advocates:
>> 
>> I plan to start experimenting with Xtol now that I've learned how to process
>> my own film.  I'll start with Tri-X and Delta 100 emulsions.  Can you please
>> share your recipe for times, temps, agitation periods, etc. when using Xtol
>> to process these films?
>> 
>> All I know at this point is that 1:3 seems to be the right dilution.
>
>1:3 is ideal so long as you have room in your tank! Each film needs 400 ml
>of dilute developer so 5 rolls is all you can do in an 8-roll 2l tank (you
>can figure out the math for other tank sizes yourself!)
>
>1:1 is *almost* as good and I use it whenever I have more than 5 rolls to
>dunk at a time. The main difference is slightly larger grain with the 1:1
>(this is counterintuitive but true) plus slightly less sharpness and less
>compression of tones (useful) due to compensating effect of very dilute
>developer in 1:3 soup.
>
>I use the times recommended in the kodak datasheet for everything except
>Tmax films. Some people get good results at the stated times for these
>films: others like me find they have to add 20-25% to get an acceptable
>result. You need to run a test if you are using these films.
>
>1:1 I agitate 7-8s each minute (a twist and three gentle inversions), with
>30s at the beginning.
>
>1:3 I agitate the same, except for the last 6 minutes or so I only agitate
>once every 2 mins, sometimes only once in the last 3 mins. This is just
>personal voodoo as I think it builds up shadow detail and
>sharpness-enhancing edge effects but I could be totally wrong.
>
>That's it! It's so easy it's a sin.
>
>-- 
>Johnny Deadman
>
>http://www.pinkheadedbug.com

Replies: Reply from Jesse Hellman <palio@miata.net> (Re: [Leica] Recipe for using Xtol developer; WAS: Varianton"Food for Leicas")
In reply to: Message from "Dan Honemann" <ddh@home.com> ([Leica] Recipe for using Xtol developer; WAS: Variant on "Food for Leicas")