Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/07/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I find your analogy on Digitial music interesting. People who really enjoy audio still claim tubes are better than transistors. I have an internet friend who owns a music store that sells nothing but analog equipment. Would you like to buy a tube CD player for around $10,000? My analogy is good wine. I like beer. Cold is better. Adams is better than Budweiser is better than Busch. Given where I am and how much cash I have I will drink any of the above warm or cold. When I drink wine (and friends have bought me good wine) I can't tell the difference between Mogan David 20/20 and the $200 a bottle stuff. However because I can't tell the difference (or even care) it doesn't mean that Mogan David is the same as the $200 bottle. - -----Original Message----- From: Paul Chefurka [mailto:Paul_Chefurka@pmc-sierra.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:36 AM To: 'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us' Subject: RE: [Leica] The quintessence of Leica photography? Erwin Your message brought back some interesting memories for me from the early 80's. At that time I was a budding serious audiophile, and digital audio was just arriving on the scene. Many of the arguments raised against it by the analog cognoscenti of the time (make that Harry Pearson and crew) were very similar in both tone and content to your complaints. The objections included such shortcomings as decreased resolution, decreased contrast and an increased potential for new types of artifacts to interfere with the information. One factor the critics failed to take into account was that of progress. They saw "digital audio" as a monolithic, unchangeable standard - one that had been cast in stone when the technology was still in its infancy, and whose mathematical underpinnings would preclude the kind of incremental refinements possible in the analog domain. Quite simply, they were wrong. They were wrong about the malleability of the technology, about the possibilities for refinement within the standards, about the speed with which those refinements would come about, and about the fact that the new technology would eventually produce results which were both technically and perceptually better than the old. The standards proved to remarkably robust - we still have 16-bit 44.1 kHz digital audio as the gold standard, for example. What improved was the execution of real-world equipment to implement those standards. Algorithms improved, circuit designs improved, recording and mastering techniques improved. Within 10 years of its introduction digital audio was challenging analog in perceptual quality, and in the next five years decisively passed it. The analogy is not perfect, of course (if it was, it would be digital ;-) In the case of audio the new technology preduced results that were technically superior but, initially, perceptually inferior. In our medium the reverse seems to be true - while technically inferior, digital results seem to be (in many peoples' opinions) better than the analog. This bodes extremely well for the near future. What you are seeing as deficiencies in the shadows are nothing more than shortcomings in the inks. Inks, papers and ink delivery systems are in a state of rapid development right now - look at the results obtainable with an Epson 700 vs today's 870, and this in the span of less than five years. While I'm not saying the 870 is state of the art in any absolute sense, it certainly indicates that the potential of the medium in nowhere near being maximized. Your pessimism about the desires of the public seems a bit misplaced, too. It is true that down through the ages most people have been of the "good enough" school, and cheaper was always more important than better (or even "as good"). A 20% quality loss has always been widely accepted as a tradeoff for a 50% drop in price. This does not apply to the hard core of connaisseurs, however - and anyone who uses a Leica M can safely count themselves in this camp. For these people, the best is an absolute requirement. They will seek out the older technologies that produce the best results, and will goad manufacturers into improving their offerings. In the case of analog audio, these connaiseurs kept the turntable market alive long after the public had voted with their dollars for cheap CD players. At the same time, they made such a noise that independent manufacturers sprang up to offer improved CD players that might be acceptable to this crazed band of quality-conscious Luddites. The improvements that were developed gradually made their way into the mass-market products. The same thing is going to happen to digital photography. The public will vote with its dollars for 2 megapixel digital cameras and low-quality digital prints (as they did for P&S's, Instamatics, APS and 1-hour prints), while the fanatical band of Leica, Contax, Nikon and Canon users will continue to demand the image quality we're used to from custom labs, but done at home or the office with all the controls and convenience of PhotoShop. We'll get it, too. Scanner resolutions are improving, printers are improving, inks are improving, software is improving. Don't make the mistake of assuming that what you see or measure today is the state of next Tuesday's art. Paul Chefurka P.S. For a closely related analysis of this issue from the field of photographic colour prints, see the article entitled "The Once and Future Color Photograph" by Ctein, at http://www.phototechniques.com/