RE: [Leica] Re:Nachtwey

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

No, not at all...pissed off, that is....What I'm talking about is long term
value and meaning...Forgive me, but I can't think of a photograph that, as
art, is in the same anything with the work of Leonardo....I guess the bottom
line is that I see the universal value of photography lying in its ability
to tell us, and future generations, something about ourselves....

B. D.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Dan Cardish
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 4:29 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re:Nachtwey
>
>
> I guess this opinion can be extended to other art forms as well.  So all
> those boring portraits and murals and sculptures done by
> Michelangelo (sp?)
> and da vinci are meaningless as well.
>
> I realize that you (B.D.) are a journalist by trade, but there is more to
> photography than photojournalism.
>
> Now *I've* proceeded to piss off many of my fellow LUGers.  ;-).
>
> Dan C.
>
> At 04:02 PM 26-06-00 -0400, B. D. Colen wrote:
> >Well, then let's just get rid of all journalists, photo and
> >otherwise...let's get rid of all photographers who take photos
> of anything
> >other than their naked grandchildren....If you don't think photos like
> >Nachtwey's ultimately CAN make a difference, you weren't alive during the
> >Vietnam war and have never seen the photo of the naked napalmed
> little girl,
> >or Eddie Adams shot of the Saigon street execution.....without
> getting into
> >the right or wrong of the the photos, they made an enormous
> difference.....
> >
> >I will now proceed to piss off many of my fellow LUGers and say that in
> >terms of the long haul, in terms of the history of mankind, the only
> >photographers whose work will be worth remembering are the
> Nachtwey's Capas,
> >Salgados, Evans, etc. etc....and I certainly put some members of
> this group
> >in  that catagory. Photos of mountains, grandchildren,
> seascapes, etc., are
> >very nice, but ultimately meaningless.
> >
> >B. D.
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of
> >> ARTHURWG@aol.com
> >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 3:50 PM
> >> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re:Nachtwey
> >>
> >>
> >> Selling  one's soul to the devil... was a refrence to what some
> >> people will
> >> do to achieve success.  By most accounts, Nachtwey is the most
> successful
> >> living photojournalist.  Is it fair to say that he got there  on
> >> the backs of
> >> the dead, the dying, those who endured the most horrible
> >> suffering?  It sort
> >> of reminds me of the Rolling Stones' "Sympath for the devil."
> And do you
> >> really think that one photo, or a thousand, can alter the course
> >> of history
> >> or save even one life?  It's a nice idea, but I don't think it
> >> works. Arthur
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>