Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/06/07

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Tell Me About The CL and Charlton Heston
From: Buzz Hausner <Buzz@marianmanor.org>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:36:20 -0400

Well, Art, I was actually quite pleased when my Leica CL was stolen from my
enamoratta.  Yes, it was a dandy little camera...but.  But, the meter cell
was cemented to the stalk with too brittle a glue so it fell off the stalk
several times, once jamming the shutter.  The shutter speed dial was placed
on the front of the camera where it would once or twice a year take a great
enough shock to require a trip to Jersey.  Also, I hate cameras that hang
like that from two lugs on the side, but that's just me.  There were other
problems, but God has been good to me and I have forgotten them in the mists
of time.  Please also see my previous post about problems with the rubber
shades.

	Buzz Hausner

- -----Original Message-----
From: Peterson Arthur G NSSC [mailto:PetersonAG@NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:07 PM
To: 'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Tell Me About This Lens and Charlton Heston



The part number for the metal shade is, I believe, 12575.  I agree with all
of the favorable comments on the "skinny" Tele-Elmarit, a little gem of a
lens!  But I disagree with negative comments (such as that below) about the
Leica CL, a lovely little gem of a camera.  Sure it's not as solid and
rugged as an M3/2/4/4-2/4-P/5/6.  However it was not intended to be that,
but rather smaller, lighter, and even more able to be carried everywhere.
To me, therefore, that trade-off is a perfect example of not being able to
have your cake and eat it too.  Same for the collapsible rubber lens hoods.
They may not have protected lenses as well as metal shades from droppage and
other catastrophes, but they were intended rather for convenience (I can
only presume).  You can pop the lens cap off and pop the hood open in a
single split-second motion.  I wish Leica made such collapsible rubber
shades with snap caps for all of its lenses, not that Leica should
discontinue the metal shades, which are excellent for their purposes, but
merely as an alternative for those who, like me, appreciate the way the
collapsible rubber shades serve so well their slightly different purposes.

Art Peterson


		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Buzz Hausner [mailto:Buzz@marianmanor.org]
		Sent:	Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:42 PM
		To:	'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'
		Subject:	RE: [Leica] Tell Me About This Lens and
Charlton Heston

		Scott--

			I presumed that the "Condom" lens shade referenced
by J.D. was the
		redoubtable and reversible metal shade for the 90 and my
lovely f4.0/135,
		rather than the dreadful collapsible rubber shade which I
last saw on the
		Tele-Elmarit C for my even more regrettable Leica CL.  I
still have that
		collapsible rubber shade just to remind me of how great a
mistake Leica can
		make and because my dealer only laughed when I tried to
leave it on the
		Tele-Elmarit C when I traded for the Skinny.  E-39 filters
work perfectly in
		the threads of the Skinny T-E and the metal shade fits right
over.  Someone
		out there must have the appropriate part number for the
shade.

			Buzz Hausner

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Sonnar502@aol.com [mailto:Sonnar502@aol.com]
		Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:12 PM
		To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
		Subject: Re: [Leica] Tell Me About This Lens and Charlton
Heston

		Two caveats: I absolutely despise that ridiculous "condom"
hood too.  In my 
		limited experience with Leica stuff, it's ranks as a joke!
While I'm not 
		fond of the pull-out ones either, at least they'll take
*some* bump - unlike

		this goofey rubber thingy.  Makes me nervous....  #2: a
regular E39 filter 
		no-worko too well with the threads on outer ring of the
hood.  Is this 
		normal? or is the ring torqued a bit?  Jim, anyone? any
ideas?  It irritates

		me on those occasions when I want a green or yellow
filter.....