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Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
From: Dan Cardish <dcardish@microtec.net>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:30:41 -0400

The so-called "passport" only applies to Leicas sold in the USA by Leica
USA.   Nowhere else.

Dan C.

At 12:47 PM 18-05-00 +0200, Javad Fatemi wrote:
>I'll take a look in the package, maybe I can find it. Thanks.
>
>
>Regards
>
>*****************************************
>Javad Fatemi
>GFI Fax & Voice GmbH
>Technical Department
>Email: jfatemi@gfigmbh.de
>Internet: http://www.gfifax.de 
>Tel: +49-40-3068100
>Fax: +49-40-306810-10 
>***************************************** 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Simon Lamb [mailto:s_lamb@compuserve.com]
>Sent: Thu, May 18, 2000 11:48 AM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
>
>
>It is a piece of white card that has the serial number and description
>of
>the lens.  You send it to Leica and get a passport back.  If it is not
>there
>then it may well be secondhand.
>
>Simon
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Javad Fatemi" <jfatemi@gfigmbh.de>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:01 AM
>Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
>
>
>>
>> Simon,
>>
>> I did not see such a passport, sorry, but I'm very new to this area.
>How
>> does it look?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> *****************************************
>> Javad Fatemi
>> GFI Fax & Voice GmbH
>> Technical Department
>> Email: jfatemi@gfigmbh.de
>> Internet: http://www.gfifax.de
>> Tel: +49-40-3068100
>> Fax: +49-40-306810-10
>> *****************************************
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Lamb [mailto:s_lamb@compuserve.com]
>> Sent: Thu, May 18, 2000 10:05 AM
>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
>>
>>
>> Javad
>>
>> I would assume that if it were secondhand there would be no passport
>> papers
>> inside the box as the original owner would most likely have sent them
>> off.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Javad Fatemi" <jfatemi@gfigmbh.de>
>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:24 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I bought yesterday APO R-Elmarit 2.8/180 and I noticed the same very
>> > small white thing. I don't thing that it it was for example a second
>> > hand lens. I  took that, because I wanted it. For me is important to
>> > find this out, second hand or no. Any idea if there is a way...
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > *****************************************
>> > Javad Fatemi
>> > GFI Fax & Voice GmbH
>> > Technical Department
>> > Email: jfatemi@gfigmbh.de
>> > Internet: http://www.gfifax.de
>> > Tel: +49-40-3068100
>> > Fax: +49-40-306810-10
>> > *****************************************
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Dan Cardish [mailto:dcardish@microtec.net]
>> > Sent: Wed, May 17, 2000 4:04 PM
>> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
>> >
>> >
>> > It probably makes no difference, performance wise.  On the other
>hand
>> > being
>> > hand made implies that someone in the factory should have held the
>> lens
>> > in
>> > their hands and noticed these things, just as you did.
>> >
>> > Dan C.
>> >
>> > At 03:35 PM 17-05-00 +0100, Simon Lamb wrote:
>> > >Hi
>> > >
>> > >I need an urgent response to this or I may miss the opportunity to
>> get
>> > the
>> > >lens.  I looked at a new 90mm f/2 APO ASPH today and noticed two
>> > things.  At
>> > >the side of the top curved element there was a small bit of white
>> > substance
>> > >trapped between the lens and the inside screw thread.  It was very
>> > small and
>> > >when I tried to brush it away there was a very fine and small hair
>> > attached.
>> > >The item seemed trapped and would not move and was, as I said very
>> > small.
>> > >
>> > >There was also a small mark on one of the internal elements.  I
>have
>> > seen
>> > >this on other lenses and they work fine.
>> > >
>> > >My question.  I did not take the lens because I figured for my
>£1,200
>> > pounds
>> > >I should get a lens without any marks or trapped bits.  Am I being
>> > overly
>> > >fussy and do you feel that this is within acceptable limits of
>> > acceptance
>> > >considering it is a Leica (hand made) and therefore subject to some
>> > >imperfections?
>> > >
>> > >I need a quick response before they sell the lens to someone else.
>I
>> > have
>> > >already waited four weeks for it and, having held it gently in my
>> arms,
>> > I
>> > >want it back!
>> > >
>> > >Simon
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Jason Hall" <JASON@jbhall.freeserve.co.uk>
>> > >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:00 PM
>> > >Subject: [Leica] Leicaflex SL MOT
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Following earlier posts about SL MOT
>> > >> production numbers, I had the following reply
>> > >> from Leica UK to an email I directed at
>> > >> Solms:-
>> > >>
>> > >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>> > >> "The s/n 1278xxx was allocated to a batch of
>> > >> Leicaflex SL's in 1970. As was often the
>> > >> practice this number (not being used in that
>> > >> batch) would have been carried over to be
>> > >> used in a  later production  run, i.e. -
>> > >> Leicaflex SL MOT.   We have no details of any
>> > >> prototypes, and modification to the original
>> > >> SL is unlikely".
>> > >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>> > >>
>> > >> I followed this up with a phone call and
>> > >> their rep claimed that despite the fact that
>> > >> some of the serial numbers fell outside of
>> > >> the designated batches, there were, as far as
>> > >> he was aware only 980 SL MOT''s made,
>> > >> production was limited to 72-74, he also said
>> > >> that there were probably far less than 980 SL
>> > >> specific motor drives made.  Contrary to the
>> > >> above mail he said that some of the MOT's
>> > >> outside of the designated serial number
>> > >> runs may have been modified SL's.
>> > >>
>> > >> This doesn't really clarify anything, but I
>> > >> hope its of interest.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jason
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>
>

Replies: Reply from Rick Dykstra <rdandcb@cybermac.com.au> (Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH)
Reply from "Simon Lamb" <s_lamb@compuserve.com> (Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH)