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Subject: RE: [Leica] nokton v. summilux
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:22:07 -0400

Tom - You're right. I was over-reacting - just a tad..;-) My apologies. As a
starving student myself many years ago I used worse than that on occasion.

Cheers
B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Tom
Finnegan
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 5:11 PM
To: 'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'
Subject: Re: [Leica] nokton v. summilux


Geez B. D., I think you might be overreacting just a tad. I was just saying
that I was surprised how decent the performance was for such a cheap
throwaway lense, I was not waxing eloquent. I was merely trying to describe
it's performance to those that might be interested. Yes it is truly crappy
at f16/22, but from f4 to f11 it is quite good, and while wider open it
does get a bit soft and low contrast it is still quite useable. Note that I
said it is 'useable', not 'stellar', or 'crappy'.

If I was a starving student I wouldn't hesitate to use it. If I was a
professional photojournalist I wouldn't consider it for a second. I bought
the 50/1.5 and the 85/2 Jupiter lenses, each for $75, simply so that I
could see in practice which of the two focal lengths worked for me on the
M. For the previous ten years I had used only the 35/1.4 (pre-asph). After
playing with the two I decided I really liked the 50 but wasn't so sure of
the 85/90. So, after slowly saving up my money, I bought a 50/1.4 Summilux
from the honorable Dr. Yao for an excellent price. I will probably keep the
50/1.5 for occasional use on a IIIf. I'll post some example pictures
tomorrow on the MSN site.

Tom Finnegan
Seattle

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Come on, guys...Tom, what you have just described is a truly crappy
lens...."Stopped down to f16/22 everything goes quite
blurry and isn't really useable unless you like pictures with an extreme
depth-of-blur." "Wide open it gets pretty soft and low contrast." Can you
imagine how everyone would react if Leica produced a lens like that? Or how
everyone would be laughing their Leica caps off if a new Nikon or Canon
lens
got a review like that.

Okay, it's incredibly cheap. But that's because it's a lousy lens that only
gives a decent performance in the mid-range...which means that it isn't an
f
1.5 to f 16 lens, it's an f8 to f 11 lens.

And I'm not suggesting that people shouldn't save money on older lenses or
non-Leica brands lenses....Only that it doesn't make sense to wax eloquent
over a lousy lens.

B. D.