Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/04/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Only the Doomed hit the "Reply to All" button... Chuck Albertson Seattle, Wash. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Re: Old Leica look/ new Leica look? > Ooooops....wrong address...! (little red faced symbol here) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of B. D. Colen > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 11:58 AM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Re: Old Leica look/ new Leica look? > > > Naveen - Two questions: > 1 - Are you dropping the class because you're not getting enough out of it? > > 2 - If I let you off the hook on the interim assignments could you manage > the final project - I ask this one because we both know that your writing is > A level and I understand the time constraints with the Tech...But I really > would like to see you stay and do the final project. > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jim Brick > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 11:35 AM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Cc: Henry Ambrose > Subject: [Leica] Re: Re: Old Leica look/ new Leica look? > > > >Jim Brick wrote: > >> > >>I have a 24/2.8 ASPH, 35/1.4 ASPH, 50/1.4 Summilux, and 75/1.4 Summilux. > >> > >>The 35/1.4 ASPH is probably the finest M lens I own. Perhaps one of the > >>finest M lenses made. > >> > >>The 50/1.4 Summilux is the M lens I use most often. It and the 75/1.4 have > >>a "look" that is unique. Unobtainable, I believe, by other manufacturers > >>lenses or with modern Leica lenses. > >> > >>Jim > >> > > At 06:25 PM 4/10/00 -0500, Henry Ambrose wrote: > > >Jim, > > > >Does this mean that your 50 Summilux is an older lens? Or the current > >version? > >I have 24, 35 50, 75, 90. Love 'em all > > > >I think I notice something different about the 75. Beside that its the > >only f1.4 lens I own and that it is huge. It seems to have a " look" all > >its own. Not just at 1.4 but stopped down also. > > > >Do you think the current 35 Summliux ASPH fits into a "family" along with > >the 50 and 75? > >Same kind of look? Or different? > > > >The 24, 35f2 ASPH, and current 50 f2 all seem to fit together in a > >similar color and feel. > >(for me) All very neutral - best word I can come up with to describe > >them. The 90 Elmarit M also seems to fit there too. > > > >Does anyone else see family resemblances in any group(s) of Leica lenses? > > > >Henry Ambrose > > My 50/1.4 Summilux is the current version, but is the same hand computed > formula used starting in 1961. It exhibits the same properties as the > 75/1.4 . Which has always been called "Leica Glow". These are the revered > "Bokeh" lenses. > > The 35/1.4 ASPH and the 24/2.8 ASPH are a completely "different" lenses. > Sharp everywhere, always. Sharp edged Bokeh. Not the old soft edge > background, glowing highlights, Leica look. Two weeks ago I used an old > 50mm rigid Summicron for a week on an M3. It produced photographs that > resembled my 50/1.4 and 75/1.4 . > > I "think" the difference is that the old lens formulas were hand computed > completely and there was a limited amount of correction possible. Erwin > said that the 75/1.4 is one of the last hand computer formulas which is why > it too has that special look. When they started using computers to aid in > lens design, more ray tracing and exacting correction could be done in less > time therefore the CAD lenses simply produce a sharper, more contrasty, and > more defined look. > > IMHO, > > Jim > > >