Re: [Leica] Film problems, again

["Dan Post" <dpost@triad.rr.com>]

Ted-
Having worked in a camera store, in the lab, I can vouch for the failure of
the little film tab inserted into the spool method of fastening film!
I always used fresh masking tape when spooling my own, and rarely had a
problem; I used Kodak TRI-X a whole lot, and they still use the tape- I have
never had a roll of Kodak film come in where it had been pulled from the
canister!
Lots of Konica, Fuji, 3M, Agfa, and the famous Chinese "Lucky Film" have
been lost that way, however! Not a week went by without two or three folks
with the presence of mind NOT to open the camera would come in, and we'd
unload the camera in the set-box! we even had special cassettes for the
processor into which we could load 'loose' film!
Ted- YOU DA MAN, but some of us can and do get caught up in the heat of the
moment and get carried away!

Dan ( just a-strokin'!) Post
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@home.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Film problems, again


>
>
> Kenneth Epstein wrote:
> >
> > I was using my new M6 TTL yesterday, when I noticed that I had gone up
to
> > the 40th frame on the indicator.  I did not notice whether the rewind
knob
> > had been turning.  I decided to rewind the film, but there was no
tension.
> > I began to doubt whether I had actually loaded the camera, so I opened
it.
> > Much to my surprise, the film had separated from the cartridge, and was
all
> > on the take-up spool.  I threw the film away and removed a broken piece
of
> > film that I found under the take-up spool.
> >
> > My question is, what happened and is there something I should avoid in
the
> > future.  Thanks from a new Leica user.>>>>>>>>
>
> Ken,
>
> If you didn't feel a solid tug on the film advance lever when advancing
> at the end of the roll, then I'd imagine the film hadn't been attached
> to the original canister spool correctly.  Not likely!
>
> It takes a pretty good heft on the advance lever to tear film from the
> canister spool . Unless in the heat of shooting you did and didn't
> realize you had done it.
>
> The advance lever should smoothly pull the film along without much
> friction from the film as it comes out of the canister and if you're
> experiencing considerable drag to the extent you can't feel the tug at
> the end of a roll, you may not be loading correctly. Not likely.
>
> However, I don't think that's the case as it's probably a faulty loaded
> roll at the factory.  Although I've never experienced this myself, I
> know of those who "load their own" have it happen on occasion.
>
> It's unusual for film to come off a spool without the photographer
> realizing he has pulled it  off . Others will have suggests
>
> ted