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Subject: Re: [Leica] MSN terms of usage: long and silly
From: "Bryan Caldwell" <bcaldwell@softcom.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:51:54 -0800

>>btw, I think its in extremely poor taste to call a lawyer Kindly, even in
a morality play.<<

As a lawyer, I find this in extremely poor taste.

Bryan


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Nygren" <anygren@attglobal.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] MSN terms of usage: long and silly


> John,
> Sorry if I misrepresented what You wrote, I have re-read the part and
> it does not quite say what I claimed/thought it said.
>
> And since I aparently am the only one that find anything wrong with
> an agreement that grants the right to do more or less whatever they
> want to "Microsoft, its affiliated companies and necessary sublicensees",
> which means more or less anyone, I will now shut up and go away.
>
> /Anders Nygren
>
> btw, I think its in extremely poor taste to call a lawyer Kindly, even in
> a morality play.
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: John Collier <jbcollier@home.com>
> Para: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
<leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Fecha: 24 March 2000 17:16
> Asunto: Re: [Leica] MSN terms of usage: long and silly
>
>
> Alas! It is as I feared. I have completely lost my power of communication.
I
> do not remember saying anything about the uploader of the file and
ownership
> issues. Maybe in my infirmity, I am forty today after all, I have failed.
Oh
> what the heck! Third time wins through! Always look on the bright side of
> life. Etc, etc...
>
> What follows is a short Morality Play.
>
> Anders has decided to start a image sharing web page for his friends,
> acquaintances and, well, anybody*. Now Anders is worth, by conservative
> estimates, 200 billion whapoozas. Naturally, after all the breach of
promise
> of marriage suits, he consults his lawyer for advice. The Kindly Family
> Lawyer (hereafter known as Kindly) tells Anders, "What if someone
downloads
> one of the images for their own nefarious devices!" Anders < did I mention
> what a dear sweet trusting soul he is? < horrified replies," You mean
people
> would do such a thing!**"Kindly continued, "And what if one of your
> employees, temporarily deranged by a chance encounter with a mysterious
> woman with whom he has fallen madly and passionately in love, uses one of
> those images for advertising your new web site." "Oh, my Gosh," Anders
> replies, understanding at last how fickle human nature can run amuck, as
he
> is a hopeless romantic searching for that one true love that will see him
> for who he really is! Kindly coughs and gently lays a comforting hand on
> Anders shoulder, "The people might not like these things happening to
their
> images and ..... well ..... they might sue you! Anders reels and is
> supported by Kindly. "Say it is not so dear sweet Kindly," he whispers
> shocked and shaken. Kindly nods his head sadly and comforts the poor
> disillusioned Anders.
>
> Let us now, dear Leica-user, bow out and say our sad farewells, leaving
the
> two alone to struggle with the wording of the TOU.
>
> John Collier
>
>
> *Anders is one swell guy after all.
>
> **This probably goes along way to explaining those breach of promise of
> marriage suits.
>
> One final note on how far you have to go in wording these legal thingees
was
> parodied by a high end audio equipment manufacturer whose legal disclaimer
> reads simply, and I might add probably ineffectively, "Do Not Deep Fry"
>
>
> > From: "Anders Nygren" <anygren@attglobal.net>
> >
> > This is not as John Collier suggested just to make
> > sure that the one that is posting the picture has the
> > right to do so.
>
>
>