Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/03/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Erwin P.: >>>Conclusion: with suitable material and technique Leica lenses can be made to deliver their image potential on paper. But a negative needs to be enlarged to at least 12 times to show the decisive advantage. Or you need a very critical eye<<< For the record, Erwin knows much more about optical science, lens design, and technical evaluation of lenses than I do. This is undisputed by me. I do sometimes disagree with his conclusions from a practical standpoint, and when I do, I say so. But this is not done in a context of disrespect, however it might appear in the heat of argument. Assuming that "suitable material and technique" means a more-or-less 100-speed film and a tripod, and presuming that one intends to end up with 16x20 enlargements (12X is 18 inches in the long dimension, or full-frame on 16x20 paper with a 1-inch border), my question would be: why not prefer a Hasselblad or a 4x5? We did a series of experiments regarding format and enlargability for the old American _Camera & Darkroom_ magazine. What we found was that the largest print size at which 35mm could "almost" compete with medium format was somewhere in-between 8x10 and 11x14. At this size, medium format won our panel comparisons--just not overwhelmingly. At 16x20, the results were decisive. Agreement among our evaluation panel (which included photographers and students, art directors, graphic designers, and non-photographers) was nearly unanimous: medium format yields better print quality. This is even true when the 35mm materials and technique were carefully optimized (we used a tripoded M6 and Kodak Ektar 25 high-resolution film) and the medium format materials and technique were not. My opinion is that, using the same film, with both cameras on a tripod, and both negatives enlarged with careful technique to more-or-less 16x20, that most people would pick the medium-format print as being of "higher optical quality" or "higher print quality" however they may choose to define it. I don't disagree with Erwin's conclusions as he stated them, or his methods, or his rigor. But I think that if you _need_ to go to 16x20 to see the superiority of Leica lenses, then there are obvious ways to see even great improvements in quality. However--and now it appears I will contradict myself--I think you can still see the "character" of lenses at smaller enlargements and with coarser-grained films. Often, a good Leica lens will show a visible advantage over a nondescript or average lens. This involves subjectivity, of course, above and beyond a strict evaluation of lp/mm, so it does not contradict Erwin's statements. - --Mike