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Subject: Re: [Leica] Cooltone (was Always use a control
From: chucko@siteconnect.com (Chuck Albertson)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:25:44 -0800

Mailing I got from Ilford last week says Cooltone will be intro'ed in the US
sometime in the spring.

Chuck Albertson
Seattle, Wash.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rabiner" <mrabiner@concentric.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Cooltone (was Always use a control


> Christer Almqvist wrote:
> >
> > >BTW: How did you warm to the Ilford Cooltone I sent you... gone cool on
the
> > >Warmtone yet?
> > >
> > >Ed Buziak / Publisher (of hopefully the world's
second-in-respectability
> > >darkroom magazine <gg>)
> > >"Camera & Darkroom"
> >
> > I hear that the Ilford Cooltone was developed, or should I
say --created--
> > to make sure there is no misunderstanding, as a tabular grain version of
> > paper, with the objective of getting better grain and sharpness than
> > current and old paper. However, Ilford did not go the whole way and did
not
> > formulate a corresponding paper developer that would have made the
> > improvement clear to see with the naked eye. Have you noticed any
> > improvement in this regard?
> >
> ><Snip>
>
> I think the Cooltone is their new Bromide paper. Almost no chloride. Like
> Brovira. And a whiter base.
> IN effect a multigrade Brovira. And as I was using Brovira even after
everyone
> switched to Portriga I'm all for it.
> Ansel was a proponent of the cooler Bromide papers. I would listen to that
advise.
>
> Chloride is warm and slow.
> Bromide is cool and fast.
>
> I think it's just a Bromide paper. Papers have Chloride or Bromide in them
> usually a mix.
> More Chloride and it's a Chlor-bromide paper.
> More Bromide and it's a Bromo-chloride as is most papers are I think.
>
> Chloride papers are contact printing papers and portrait papers. Agfa
Portriga,
> Azo. But I understand it's hard to get a pure Chloride paper they always
sneak
> some Bromide in there and visa versa.
> Mark Rabiner
>