Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/02/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]- ----- Original Message ----- From: Lucien <director@ubi.edu> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Leica]Konica Hexar...It ain't no Leica.. > > > dominique pellissier wrote: > > > Next time I'll try a practical comparison between my 2/35 non asph and the > > tri-elmar. > > But, if we compare MTF tests published by Leica, between the 35 asph and the > > tri-elmar at a focal length of 35 mm, and both the 2 lenses at 5.6, we > > observe that the 35 is clearly the winner. > > For CI, the tri- is "very good, good". And the 35 is "excellent, very good". > > Dominique, > > What I want to point is that the Tri-Elmar is better (in my opinion) than what > CI say about it. > And the same for the APO 90/2 ASPH. > There is more difference between the former 90/2 and the APO than what they > said IMO. > But maybe they tested two below average lenses in both those tests. > > > Yes, I know, "CI is -as other photographic reviews- totally bought off to > > Nikon, or Canon or Minolta. And only Leica foto is an independent > > review".;-)) > > Dominique, > > I'm reading CI since more than 20 years now, and I never missed one issue. > I know perfectly well they are not sold to any company. > But they are sometimes biased by there own beliefs. > And that's part of their strengths. > They have strong beliefs and that's great. > But they are certainly not not omniscient. > > By the way, I cannot read MTF graphs like you do. > All I can do is take pictures and look at it with a loupe or project them on a > screen. > And there I can see that the Tri-Elmar is really a great lens. > It's really an achievement when you realize all the constraints they had in > order to make it happen. > It was much more difficult to design it than a Reflex zoom. > > Lucien > > ######## Lucien, Maybe am I too "dogmatic" in the sense I put my faith in CDI' s tests and I'd better buy the tri-elmar and compare it to my summicron 35. But a tri-elmar is very expensive (18000 FRF or 3000 USD) and when I see ads such as : "for sale tri-elmar as new", I ask myself : why do they sell this outstanding gem bought 18 KF and resold only 11KF ? Why do they accept to loose 7KF ? As you know the second-hand market for Leica products is bigger than the market for new products. Why ? I don't think there are Leica lenses under the average. If it was the case, Leica would be a pretty bad manufacturer !