Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/12/19

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Subject: RE: LUG[Leica] Extreme Low Light Color --> Mr Puts
From: "Jonathan Borden" <jborden@mediaone.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:17:12 -0500

I don't often shoot color negs myself. For snapshot situations we have tried
Kodak "Max 800" which has terrible grain. I recently tried a roll of Fuji
NPH 400. The stuff is incredible. Looks roughly as good as Kodak 200 or
perhaps 100. However this is $3.99/roll at B&H and NHG II (800) is
$5.79/roll, while the Fuji Superia CH 400 is $2.59/roll and CZ 800 is $3.69
as is CU 1600 (what is that stuff??).

Has anyone compared these versions of Fuji C-41 films? We are talking big
bucks here :-))

Jonathan Borden

Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>
> Dan Cardish wrote:
> >
> > Are you talking about NHG II Fuji Professional 800 film?  If
> so, I find the
> > 120 format to be very grainy.  I can't imagine even attempting to get a
> > reasonably fine grained image from 35mm.  It may be a usefull
> film for the
> > occasions which warrant it, but for general purpose use, I'll
> stick with my
> > Reala (and my fast lenses), thank you.
> >
> > Dan C.
> >
> > At 04:25 PM 18-12-99 -0800, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> > >Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I am not a professional photojournalist, but I too have
> recently discovered
> > >> Fuji's 800 color negative film. It is a revelation. It is
> now the only
> > color
> > >> negative film I use.
> > >>
> > >> Nathan
> > >>
> > >
> > >I agree it's what's in my second body right now. Great for
> scanning! Looks
> > like
> > >ASA 200 film grain and sharpness wise.
> > >Mark Rabiner
> > >
> > >
> Huh! they have a letter code NHG II and is commonly now used by wedding
> photographers to shoot weddings.
> In my own mind the ASA used in the weddings is a standard of
> sorts for where
> film is at.
> I saw it creep since the late seventies from 80 to 100 to 125 to
> 160 and then
> quickly from 400 to the amazing 800. It's a Sci Fi world that's
> for sure. If you
> are getting grain it is becuae you are underexposing it. Try
> giving it another
> half stop. I'm doing OK with it at its rated speed with my meters
> and meters in
> cameras. It does matter where you have your film run I've
> discovered places I've
> learned to avoid that the film came out thin with.
> Mark Rabiner
> As a "pro" film you have to "run it" quickly after you shoot it. It's
> refrigerator film.
>