Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think the current argument is ludicrous. We're arguing around in circles--the R8 isn't selling; do you have hard facts that it isn't? Financial reports show that R sales are down precipitously. But it's a true LEICA and I wouldn't want it any other way. Still, it would be nice if they could stay in business. It should have been AF. It should NOT have been AF. Can you prove AF sells any better? (This is the most ridiculous suggestion of the whole argument.) Leica can't do AF. Oh yes they can, they did it first and somebody once read somewhere that they own some of the patents. The whole market is saturated anyway, so the R8 can't do any better. The R8 is behind the times. No it isn't. Leica isn't innovative. There is no such thing as innovation in photography anyway. Blah, blah. Did not, did too, did not, did too. I've got just a couple of questions: do you people WANT Leica to go down in flames? Do you want all forward motion (presuming "innovation" is too strong a word) to cease? Will you be happiest if the M6 ends up as the camera equivalent of the wooden-bodied Morgan Roadster, i.e., a vestigial throwback using ancient technology, replicated in tiny numbers at relatively very high cost? And, do you think these head-in-the-sand "everything is copacetic" attitudes HELP Leica? Do any of you think Leica would mind selling MORE R8s? Do any of you think R sales would be declining so rapidly if the R8 had been a resounding SUCCESS? In my own opinion, it is NOT certain that an AF camera from Leica would a.) sell or b.) help save their ass. But to suggest that the camera-buying public doesn't accept AF is just absurd--it's damn near a mandatory feature for the overwhelming majority of camera buyers. It's a moot point here, though, because there's a hell of a lot more to bringing an AF system SLR camera to market than "knowing how to do it." Retooling the entire lens line, for one. Zeiss won't do this for Kyocera for anything like acceptable cost (and Kyocera is so frustrated by this impediment that they built an AF BODY that Rube Goldberg would be proud of). Olympus won't do it for the OM line, and they're one of the three most profitable camera companies on earth, with a turnover that dwarfs Leica's. Let's please stop this absolutely ABSURD talk about Leica not going to an AF SLR because it "doesn't meet their standards" or it's "not precise enough." That's just absolute, complete, utter BS. They don't do it for the same reason that I don't buy myself a PRIVATE JET: because it's so incredibly far above the reach of my resources that the very idea is in the realm of fantasy. Again, I'd like to suggest that there may be a way the LUG can actually help Leica. Why not draft a resolution in support of Herr Cohn and articulating your love and support of classic Leica photography? A LUG Manifesto. You could start a program whereby Luggers offer to help younger photographers by showing them your Ms and showing them how to use them, letting them shoot a roll or two, whether in your presence or not. You could visit photography schools and show kids some Leica equipment and talk about the lore, the legend, and the ethos of the camera. Pledge yourselves to helping spread the word. Put out a press release. Send it to all the newspapers. Heck, you've got the ear of at least one magazine editor right now. Why NOT do something like this? Think of all the accumulated expertise that is gathered on this forum, in a hundred different fields. Do something positive. This silly nattering about how everything's just hunky-dory as it is and nothing should ever change and anybody who uses any other camera is a benighted moron, none of that is constructive in the least; it just doesn't help your cause. - --Mike