Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Just thought I would ad my thoughts after having used an R8 for just a few weeks. I have been an M user for more than 15 years of hard professional work primarily in the Far East but in punishing locales from Siberia in mid-winter to Indonesian rain forests. I work for demanding clients from Coca-Cola to Newsweek and shoot primarily colour transparency though also a lot of black and white for my personal projects. I have been stepping slowly and carefully into the R system in addition to EOS which IMHO is the pro standard 35mm system and likely to only get more firmly entrenched there. OTOH I find the pleasure in using Leicas M and R gives me back something I continue to find lacking in the EOS system: they are simpler, offer a better tactile experience especially the lenses and on the whole do not do things faster than you can think nor adopt automation beyond mortal comprehension. The AF and AE facility of EOS cameras is far beyond anything Leica is capable of anytime in the near future but both aspects encourage laziness in the photographer if only because the cameras are designed with MF and manual exposure control as occasional overrides rather than the normal operating mode. In other words they can focus very quickly and accurately and set the exposure pretty consistently but at the same time you cannot wholly trust an AE system that is not linear and you do not know what it is measuring (i.e. in matrix mode) in that it has unpredicatble biasing. Having said that it is very useful in certain situations, invaluable in a few. The main operational advantage of AF in general photography is that it can make slow or even relatively hard to focus fast zoom lenses workable in most lighting situations. Also as Bill Pierce remarked in his well considered piece on Digital Journalist about EOS, they finally make focussing fast (or even slow) wideangles on SLRs just about as accurate and predictable as Ms. Having said all this going to Rs might seem retrograde but I only use a 28 on my Rs and keep my Ms for other wides. So what do I like about the R8? Firstly it fits my hand very well (I have slightly larger than average hands), the focusing screen is good (though not as good as my Maxwell-treated R6 screen) and easy to focus in the central field. With the winder it is a comfortable handful and not too heavy or large, compared to the EOS1 or 3 which have a considerably larger profile (when fitted with the boosters - which I prefer for balance reasons). The metering selector switch is conveniently placed next to the speed dial which has a very good positive yet not too firm feel. The idiosyncracies of the other controls are not so endearing: the depth of field preview is stiff (though much better than earlier Rs), the ISO/frame No LCD display seems awkward and tacky and for no good reason is only on when the meter is on. The contoured grip on the back is very comfortable and firm. In use it is straightforward and the metering in particular is very accurate: much better than my various EOSs and the only camera (besides my R6) with a really trustworthy (IME) spot meter. A few words about the R6: I love the size of the body, hate the grip for the motor drive (R4 version) which seems to be an ergonomic failure: impossible to reach the speed dial with one's hand strapped into the highly uncomfortable plastic protrusion which is ugly, clumsy and inconvenient so I do not use it. It is hard to rewind film with a flash attached to the R6 shoe and the fact that it uses a different an incompatible TTL system to the R8 is a pain. I actually prefer the slightly larger screen image of the R6 to the R8's but then I have 20/20 vision and do not wear glasses. I usually use my left eye for viewing though or I would most likely remove the motor for most of my shooting. Well the main reason for my move to Rs is the lenses: I have a 28, 60 and 80-200 all current types and all wonderful in colour or black and white. They are sharp and most particularly have great contrast in low light situations but the main thing for me is the rich colour that they offer which makes for more consistency when using my Ms at the same time. So why not quit EOS and go the whole hog? Well the obvious problem of expense is certainly one reason: however you cut it buying and maintaining Leicas is more expensive than Canon. The main reason for me is that the service of Leicas in this part of the world, despite the considerable sales they have in say Hong Kong or Japan, is dreadful: slow and usually at least twice the price of Germany or USA. One M lens I had took 6 months to fix. For Canon there is a network of excellent service stations in at least half a dozen cities in mainland China and for example I had a shift lens cleaned (internal elements had been contaminated after exposure to chemicals at a refinery), relubed and broken parts replaced in Beijing in 12 hours for less than USD30. I am sure an equivalent problem with a Leica lens would involve a trip to Hong Kong a wait of 2-6 months and a service charge of 10-20 times greater magnitude. A few years ago a senior manager from Solms told me that Leica planned to start its 3rd full service repair station (after Solms and New Jersey) in Hong Kong. Not only has this not happened but they do not even seem to have a trained M repair person there and most optical servicing beyond CLA is just sent to Solms. This is pretty poor: even Linhof have a proper repair service in Hong Kong and they are much smaller than Leica. The other problem is that stock levels are very low and it is hard to get even basic accessories: for example filters, lens hoods are IME special order items in many cases. Pretty bad and just unworkable for a busy pro. Anyhow I love using the Rs and live in hope that Leica will get its act together: it is not just about product but also service... Bests froim rainy Shanghai Adrian