Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/08/12

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Old Leicas and better than the new "Junk" Cameras
From: "Guido Soprano" <guidosoprano@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:12:26 EDT

Don,

ever try thinking?

statistical samples of one?
"even looked cheap"

you might be funding the Krauter "anything made after the 50's is krap" 
manifesto, but it ain't so

get a life

GS

>From: DonjR43198@aol.com
>Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Old Leicas and better than the new "Junk" Cameras
>Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:20:39 EDT
>
>In a message dated 08/11/1999 5:37:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
>msmall@roanoke.infi.net writes:
>
><< For all of the many reasons pointed out by myself and others for so many
>  years >>
>Just because something is said over and over does not necessarily make it
>true.  I have yet to see any hard evidence that the current M cameras are
>better made than the M-3 and M-4 cameras.
>
>I finally bought an M-6 so I could compare it with my M-3's and after five
>(5) months put it on the market and sold it.  From that sample, it was 
>clear
>Solms did not have a quality control program in place and some of the parts
>even looked cheap.  In checking with the mentioned repair person, I learned
>my opinion was supported by others.
>
>In the "Leica M Guide" the author states:
>"Bucking this trend is the worthwhile but very expensive M6J.  It's a M6 
>made
>to the higher standards of the M3, with a beautiful chrome finish and
>engraved top.  Besides its $9,000.00 price tag, perhaps its most noteworthy
>feature is its finder. " (Emphasis added.)
>
>So nowadays it costs $9,000.00 to purchase a Leica M camera that is as good
>as the M-3's that we bought for $273 in the 59-60 era.  That's really
>progress!
>
>Did someone report that Solms stock has hit the skids?  Maybe the investors
>are concerned with competition from Japanese camera body manufacturers.
>
>The problem may not be the entire fault of Solms but of the evolution of 
>the
>German political state that has to require manufacturing to employ everyone
>and fund the huge social programs mandated by the German electorate.  Kind 
>of
>like manufacturing something in the US; calculate the manufacturing cost 
>and
>then multiply that by a large percentage to satisfy Uncle Sam.
>
>We are probably darn lucky that the people at Solms are innovative enough 
>to
>manufacture M cameras to their current standards at the current price.
>Craftsmanship is a lost art; just ask those who need tool and diemakers in
>this country.


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