Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/06/24

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Subject: Re: [Leica] XTOL capacity & time (was Question)
From: Christer Almqvist <chris@almqvist.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:14:20 +0000

>The current Xtol datasheet is April 1998-J109.
>
>On the matter of how much active ingredient to use, they are very
>specific (page 2, "Capacity"):
>
>"We recommend always starting with at least 100 mL of full-strength
>developer to prepare the diluted solution for each 135-36 or 120 roll.
>for example, with a 1:3 dilution, this would produce about 400 mL of
>solution. This is the minimum amount per roll, even though a lesser
>amount may be adequate to cover the film"

Yes, the data sheet is specific, but also not all that clear.

The 'Capacity' section has a subsection 'Time Compensation' which states
that the capacity is approx 15 rolls of film per litre, with time
compensation. These three words are important. And then, if you go to the
bottom of the page, there is a table for the time compensation. It says:
"increase normal development time by 15% if you develop 6-10 films per
litre and increase these times by another 15%  (that is by one-third in
total) if you develop 11 to 15 films per litre full strength developer
(FSD)".

To me that means that if you use 100ml FSD per film you develop 10 rolls
per litre and should increase the times given in the table by 15%. Perhaps
a little more as a 33% increase is recommended if you use 91 ml (1000 ml
divided by 11 films),  and I do not think that development times jumps in
such steps for minor dilution changes. As always, your mileage may vary....
And the mileage for different brand films does vary as the test made by
Jobo confirms. They say Fuji and Agfa need more developer than Kodak and
Ilford films

On the subject of Jobo tanks (and other are similar), on the bottom of my
tank it says that its needs 260 ml per film, which is true.  But what is
also true is that you can put as much as 400 ml in the small tank, and this
may be the solution to the capacity problem you would otherwise have. Just
be a little bit more careful when agitating and emptying the tank.

I have tried Xtol undiluted and diluted 1+1 and 1+2 and 1+3 with Delta 100
exposed at 200. I found the 1+1 dilution to give the best over all result.
I always buy the 5 litre pack, which costs less than two one litre packs. I
find it false economy to save on developer and I use at least 150 ml FSD
per film. Troop and Anchell would find even that too little I guess.....
150 ml makes almost 7 films per litre FSD and I have found the 15% time
increase described above to be needed and adequate.

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