Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/06/20

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Subject: Re: [Leica] More horse-manure 2
From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@islandnet.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:16:48 -0700

Ladies and gentlemen of the LUG,

As some of you know my M6 and I are too well acquainted with "cow manure!"
fresh from the cow!

However this "horse manure" topic, I dare not use conversation, of the past
few days is, quite frankly completely out of line with anything to do with
Leica!

It appears to be school boys carrying tales and giving off third  party
stories and I do wish that we get back to things Leica. It seems some of
this material has come from the Hasselblad list and has absolutely no
business here whatsoever.

If I appear some what stuffy about this, that's unfortunate, certainly for
those who feel I am. However, I'm perfectly calm in asking as a gentleman,
that it end as it serves not a whit of good for anyone! And as quite often
pointed out...."use your delete key and don't bother reading it!"  Quite
right and I do use it, but the subject does appear to be a terrible waste
of time and effort, when it has nothing to do with Leica cameras, but more
of a personality thing.

Besides, I'd much rather read Leica things than using my delet key,
certainly when we have so many interesting, entertaining and wise people
amongst the users of this Leica list.

So what say folks, can we bring this to an end? Give it a try lads, think
something Leica and give it a whirl. See ya! :)

thanks,
ted




>TSL wrote:
>>
>> SNIP<<This List is not a democracy, but is turf which I control, and
>> I am attempting to do so, as the Good Lord directs, for the benefit of us
>> all.  ><snip>
>> If any of you want to take over the Rollei List, let's
>> talk.  But, I expect that you will be :
>> a)  conversant in German
>> b)  familiar with all volumes of Prochnow's (German-language) Rollei
>> Reports>>SNIPAnd today, Marc scolded a member of his Rollei list thusly,
>> >> Uh, friend:  you are here as my guest.  Understand this, and I am mighty
>> >> tolerant for the lot of you, but, pray, do not be stupid enough to post a
>> >> note like this to the List.>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> I have not the slightest idea what this is all about, and it is, as will
>><snip> shows fractious and antipathetic reproach.
>> The choice of words are not simply 'undemocratic'.  It serves as a fine
>> catalyst for further rank and sort.  A great reminder, and  very good for
>> Leica/Rollei.
>
>A lesson to be learned is that we should not say anything off list that
>we don't want repeated on list for as obvious a breach of etiquette
>doing so might be, it's always done. Perhaps as a defense against
>getting overly nasty personal posts from people but still very
>questionable in it's propriety.
>Leaders of lists may be authorities but are still human; and as so are
>capable of breaches emotional and logical.  With me it certainly starts
>with the Grammatical and who knows.
>Wheather it's the Lug or the Hug or the Bug in the Rug.
>That's how I see it!
>Mark Rabiner


Ted Grant
This is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler.
http://www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant