Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/06/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] On TOPIC 180 Summicron + 2x versu 280 2.8 + 1.4x
From: Dan Cardish <dcardish@microtec.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:30:41 -0400

It's a bit difficult to tell from these photos, but it appears to me that
the bokeh of the second photo (180+2x) appears better.

Dan C.

 toAt 12:04 AM 12-06-99 -0300, you wrote:
>This evening I went to take pictures at a soccer (football) game using both
>the 280 APO 2.8 and the 180 APO Summicron.  I came to the conclusion that
>the 180 with the APO 2x creates just as fine an image as the 280 APO 2.8
>plus 1.4x.  It makes me think whether it is worth having both lenses.  Is
>there really much difference in angle of view between the 280 + 1.4 at
>400mm F4 and the 180 + 2x at 360mm F4?
>
>This is a shot taken this evening with the 280 + 1.4:
>
>http://home.istar.ca/~robsteve/photography/images/soccer/Soccer-Jun-11-99-1.
>jpg
>
>This shot was taken with the 180 + 2x:
>
>http://home.istar.ca/~robsteve/photography/images/soccer/Soccer-Jun-11-99-2.
>jpg
>
>
>The more I use the 180 Summicron, the more I am in awe of it.  Not only is
>it sharp and contrasty and all good things optically, but mechanically it
>is first rate.  I was using it on a monopod and could focus it by just
>moving the focusing ring with my thumb only.  It is that smooth and
>requires that little effort.  That combined with its fast speed make it
>very easy to focus.  I had more good shots on the two rolls I shot tonight,
>than I had last week when I used an EOS 1N and the Canon 300 2.8.  I even
>have one shot where a score was made and i manged to pan to the net and
>focus on the ball.  I know the EOS can't focus that quick with all the
>distraction of the netting to throw it off.  A scan of that pic is:
>
>http://home.istar.ca/~robsteve/photography/images/soccer/Soccer-Jun-11-99-8.
>jpg
>
>
>So to get the LUG back on topic, what would you do in my case, keep both
>lenses  or sell one?  I realize that the 280 + 2x makes a 560 F5.6, but I
>also have a 400 2.8 which will give me a 560 F4 with the 1.4x.
>
>Regards,
>
>Robert
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